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« on: December 12, 2020, 04:21:09 PM »

Wich company offers a good timing belt tensioner replacement?
I've already tried the Quinton Hazel tensioner  but that one doesn't even fit right.

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2020, 12:05:25 AM »

Hi,
My 2000 carb engine has a removable bearing, held in by a circlip.
If yours is like this, I got a bearing from RS.
The part number is 3205-A-2RS1TN9/MT33.

Not all Beta engines have the same bearing.
You should be able to check dimensions and compare.

Hope this helps
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2020, 06:36:01 PM »

Thanks for the reply Nigel!
I'll look into this for sure.

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2020, 10:25:37 PM »

Hi,
My 2000 carb engine has a removable bearing, held in by a circlip.
If yours is like this, I got a bearing from RS.
The part number is 3205-A-2RS1TN9/MT33.

Not all Beta engines have the same bearing.
You should be able to check dimensions and compare.

Hope this helps
Nigel

This is the bearing I used on a 2000IE.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2020, 09:08:40 AM »

So uhh, this will sound a bit weird but i came to the conclusion that i actually have a 2000cc block. It had four different owners since it was last registrated so one must've replaced the engine block.
Anyway, i got a new 2000cc timing belt tensioner but the weird thing is is that i still need a 1600cc timing belt.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2020, 10:58:03 AM »

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The 1600 belt should be too small and given they are a tight fit, I would double check your part nos. How many teeth does the belt have you are using?

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 06:01:04 PM »

Good evening Peter,

The timing belt has 144 teeth. The belt is already on there and it turns without any hickups so this should be the right one.

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2020, 07:01:52 PM »

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If that is the case I would suggest your block is not a 2l as that is higher than the 1600 and you should need a longer belt?

Have you checked the p/n on the block next to the oil filter?

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2020, 07:30:35 PM »

I agree with Peter the belt for the 2000 has 148 teeth.

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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2020, 10:20:25 AM »

I think this is the p/n number you asked for, Peter.


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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2020, 10:42:41 AM »

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No that is the part nos for that item, (oil filter housing?). As you look from the front of the engine there should be a stamped on number rather than in the casting which is just above the oil filter. Often very hard to see and read unfortunately. I will see if I have a photo somewhere of its location.

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2020, 10:53:49 AM »

Hi

This thread shows you where to look, is not so easy with the engine in situ.

https://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=931.0

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2020, 11:47:48 AM »

Well, it's not located there as you can see in the image below.
i did look into the haynes book and it said that it was located here (image 2). I looked into that and mine said 82312992   828BB. 0A.0  (image 3).

Lets hope its the right code.

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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2020, 12:07:43 PM »

Hi

That is odd, however the 828BB.0A shows it is a 1585 block, the 2l would be something like 828BB.1 etc.

So all is as it should be!

All the best

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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2020, 01:05:12 PM »

Thanks Peter,

Just one more question, is there any harm to it if i have a belt tensioner that's meant for a 2L? I have bought two 1.6L tensioners from England already and both of them are positioned too close to the block itself like you can see in the first image.
They both won't turn at all and they actually tear into the block too if i get them to turn. The 2l tensioner on the other hand works perfectly.

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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2020, 07:19:30 PM »

Many tensioner back plates have a step that stands the tensioner away from the block. I can no longer remember if the 1600 back plate varies from the 2000. As long as the belt runs centrally on the tensioner and it does not bind or touch you have found the right combination. FYI the Montecarlo tensioner is different again.

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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2020, 10:30:53 PM »

You must always get a tensioner for a Beta rather than a Fiat, be cynical and always check adverts carefully. A Montecarlo uses a more Fiat style arrangement and this can cause confusion with advertised parts. When new all front drive Betas had a casing with a removable bearing, if you have that type you can replace the bearing with a good quality SKF equivalent. Some 1.3 and 1.6 complete replacements such as SKF are a complete tensioner that cannot be taken apart. The complete tensioners most commonly offered these days are the smaller 1.3/1.6 ones. The 2 litre tensioner is slightly larger in diameter to account for the taller block and slightly longer belt. I don't know but I suspect it would work fine on a 1.6.
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2020, 09:11:56 AM »

Now that i think about it, a 2 liter came off it as well. the engine should run fine.

Thanks for the replies Eric and rossocorsa!

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