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Title: 1979 1600 Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on October 25, 2020, 04:06:35 PM
Hello all.  This 1600 Coupe is the fifth Lancia Beta that I have owned.  The others were a 1981 2000 Spider, a 1983 HPE Volumex, a 1983 HPE ie spares car, and a veeeeeerrrryyyy rusty 1300 Coupe that used to bend when going around corners and had been awarded the World's most imaginative MOT by someone.

I bought this 1979 1600 Coupe in 2017, but it spent most of the period from February 2018 until October 2020 in a barn or in a workshop.  Its clutch failed in early 2018, shortly before I went to work overseas, so the car went into a dry barn and stayed there until after I returned to the UK earlier this year.  It then got stuck for many weeks at a local garage that had too much work on, but it has been back on the road for the last two weeks, with a fresh MOT.

The car was Ziebarted by its first owner, a Mrs Garland who lived near Aberdeen.  The car went to the Isle of Man in 1983 and came back to the UK some time before I bought it.  The bootlid has been welded at some point, and I had the front suspension turrets and one wheel arch welded soon after buying the car.  Most of the car's metal and paint are original.  The indicated mileage is around 51,000 miles and the car runs well.  It is shortly to get an Amedon Amethyst ignition set.  The mustard yellow seats have suffered from sun damage to the rear headsets, and the cover of the driver's seat has split in three places.  As a temporary measure, the car has a set of tailored seat covers in beige faux-leather. The oil temperature gauge does not work, but the other gauges do.  Its wiper stalk has been replaced by a panel switch, as the stalk broke off.  The car is shortly to get a new set of Pirelli Cinturatos or Dunlop Sport Classics, depending on which are available.

The car shares barn space with a 1962 Lancia Appia Berlina, a 1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe 1800, a 1981 Lotus Eclat (project), a 1983 Land Rover Series III 88, and also a 1982 Moto Morini 350 Sport and a 1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza.  

The car has a twin that is up for auction at Brightwells with no reserve.  

I am waiting for a new V5 to arrive and will then change the car's VED status to historic, and put its 1979 T plates on it (white and yellow plates - none of that ahistorical black plate nonsense).  My Fiat needs welding to its sills and suspension mounts, so the Beta and the Appia (which is almost rust free and is mostly original) will be this winter's classic cars for use on fine days, followed by hosing down.  

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on October 25, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
This cheesy 1970s watch (a Breitling Transocean mechanical from circa 1970-71) was lost in the barn for five years, but has returned to use at the same time as the Beta.  It goes better with the more lairy Fiat.  I have a less knobbish 1970s watch that goes better with the Beta, but is in the Fiat below.

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: HFStuart on October 25, 2020, 10:40:59 PM
Deeply unsure about the Breitling  but that's a smart looking Coupe!


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on October 26, 2020, 06:01:17 AM
Thanks!  I bought the Breitling on a whim in 2010 for not much money.  It is a bit bling and not my sort of watch!  I may sell it to fund rust repairs on my Fiat or a retrim for the Beta.

I have a couple of small and restrained 1962 watches to go with my 1962 Appia and they are more my thing.

Meanwhile the Beta stranded itself with a flat battery in a nearby village last night.  It was getting dark and I had forgotten to put a jumper pack in the boot, so I cabbed home and will go and rescue the car with a jump box in a bit.



Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on October 26, 2020, 06:31:27 AM
Pubbing -

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: WestonE on October 26, 2020, 08:49:01 AM
Even breaking down done with style. If you have to break down right outside a good pub is nice planning!


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on October 26, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
I jump started the car and drove it home, but I think that it may need a new battery, or if not that has a charging problem.    The alternator belt seems to be fitted OK, and the alternator warning light has not illuminated.    I shall go to the shops in my Appia until I am sure of the Beta's charging position.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: WestonE on October 26, 2020, 04:57:59 PM
You should see 14.4 Volts from the Alternator engine running. I recommend a CTEK Battery charger conditioner for each of your cars. Battery needs to be 175 x 175 x 243 size. I like the Yuasa YBX 5075 60AH 640CCA.
Seriously consider a WOSP Reduction gear starter motor they are so much better than the original and much lighter.

Eric


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on October 26, 2020, 05:33:28 PM
Cheers!  I have two of the  CTek battery conditioners that move around the cars -  they are great!


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on October 26, 2020, 05:37:44 PM
Yuasa ordered - Tayna undercut Halfords and others on that battery by almost 100% - v good.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: peteracs on November 13, 2020, 11:15:59 AM
Hi

Based on the above comments I bought one of the CTek battery conditioners. After reading a number of comments I plumbed for the low end 0.8A one as already had a normal charger for drained battery use!

It works very nicely on my Saab and the Beta batteries. Best price I found was oddly enough Halfords, not usually price competitive, but they were on this occasion.

Peter


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on December 11, 2020, 12:23:06 PM
Update: Yuasa battery good.   I shall take the car for a blat this weekend and then jet wash it.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: spydervx on December 11, 2020, 07:16:53 PM
Hi Gerard,

That is a very lovely Coupe.  I grew up on the Isle of Man where you can drive when you are 16.  In 1983 I would have been 18.  I was very lucky to be able to drive my father's series 1 (real no roof bars) spyder or one of his two fulvias (normally fast and late at night around the TT course).   

That is where my lancia obsession started and I knew most of the montecarlos and coupes on the island.  I am certain that yours is one I would have lusted after at some point so it is great to see it looking so well.
Also completely agree, it is absolutely essential to wear the correct period watch for the car.

Gerry (also a Gerard)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on December 14, 2020, 08:59:25 AM
Cheers! 

Gerard (never a Gerry)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on December 15, 2020, 07:09:22 PM
I have info about the couple that first owned this car!  The warranty is in the name of this man's wife, and he appears in correspondence with Lancia UK dating from 1986 in the car's file.   The names and residence details indicated in other obituary sources match, and the car came back from the IOM in 2017, so it appears that this hero of WW2 and his wife had the car from 1979, and that he kept it after his wife's death in 2003 until he died in 2016.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/100587 (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/100587)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eric-garland-xqc6vl62b (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eric-garland-xqc6vl62b)


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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on December 16, 2020, 05:32:56 AM
I wonder if Flight Lieutenant Garland's experiences fighting with the Italian partisans gave him a fondness for things Italian.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on January 04, 2021, 09:24:01 AM
Quick and dirty pezzer shot.

Jetwashed afterwards, promise!

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: chrisc on January 04, 2021, 04:45:15 PM
Quick and dirty pezzer shot.

Jetwashed afterwards, promise!

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For some reason I thought this was still awaiting attention to the clutch BV - glad to see it out and about


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on January 04, 2021, 05:03:25 PM
After being stuck in a barn for over two years the car got stuck in garagejail from June to October but has been rorting about since then.  I am still waiting to hear from DVLA re putting the 1978-9 UK plates back on the car.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on January 19, 2021, 09:27:42 AM
Play, wash, and engine shot -


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Wax on, wax off -


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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on January 24, 2021, 11:51:22 AM
The car spent the night out.  Very heavy frost first thing this morning.  The frost is now covered in about 3 cms of snow.  I wound the window up as the snow started


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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 18, 2021, 01:50:06 PM
The car is today getting Amedon Amethyst mappable ignition, which I've had on my Fiat 124 for a while and is a good thing.

I shall take some photos, as the tatty mustard coloured seats now have well made and close fitting beige vinyl covers made by a woman in Turin.  Next: new tyres, and a bit of minor paintwork.

I also need to replace or fix the coolant expansion tank, as it has tiny cracks on the top and is leaking a bit.   Hey, at least the clock now lights up.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 18, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
I add that I found some notes made by F/L Garland MC OBE or his wife when they had the car.  It had done 45,000 miles by 1990.  It is now showing what appears to be a genuine 50,500 miles, so evidently wasn't used a lot between 1990 and F/L Garland's death in 2016.

I am still trying to get the car back onto its UK T plate.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: peteracs on February 18, 2021, 02:07:10 PM

I also need to replace or fix the coolant expansion tank, as it has tiny cracks on the top and is leaking a bit.   Hey, at least the clock now lights up.

Hi Gerard

I have a spare one if you need it.

Peter


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 18, 2021, 02:10:37 PM
Fabulous, thanks Peter, I will email you.



Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 19, 2021, 04:50:02 PM
Seat covers.  Not perfect, but not too bad, and a lot cheaper than a retrim.

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on February 20, 2021, 11:54:06 AM
Very good. Probably not even noticeable as covers from outside the car?


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: frankxhv773t on February 20, 2021, 01:04:20 PM
Those do look rather good. I notice the rear seat backrests and the headrests look a bit loose fitting. I wonder if some foam padding under the covers would plump them up a bit.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 20, 2021, 09:56:52 PM
That might work.  The covers look better in real life than they do in photos. and, yes, from outside they hardly look like covers.   The mismatch with the door inserts isn't as annoying as I thought it would be, but I may try to find a match.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: WestonE on February 21, 2021, 10:36:44 AM
I think careful use of a hairdryer might get the creases out and let the covers settle for an even better look. Of course if we had warm sunny days!!


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 27, 2021, 12:20:35 PM
Thanks for top tipz!


The car now has an Aldon Amethyst mappable ignition system, a new exhaust centre section, and new Pirelli P1s.  So I am off out to play.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: mangocrazy on February 28, 2021, 06:30:25 PM
The car now has an Aldon Amethyst mappable ignition system, a new exhaust centre section, and new Pirelli P1s.  So I am off out to play.
Hi Gererd, Can you provide a link to the mappable ignition? I Googled Aldon Amethyst  but only got lots of references to crystals...


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on February 28, 2021, 10:28:02 PM
http://www.aldonamethyst.co.uk/ (http://www.aldonamethyst.co.uk/)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 01, 2021, 09:41:10 AM
I am a fan of these Amethyst systems.  I have one on my Fiat 124 Sport Coupe, which is a rorty beast.  The Beta needs more fine tuning, but already feels more lively.  The new tyres are great, and the car no longer sounds like a bag of spanners.  The mid section of the exhaust was in a bad state and rattling and rasping badly.  The tail section has one small hole but this has been covered.  I might paint it later today, although if the sun comes out I might ride my old Italian motorbike, which I put on charge last night.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: mangocrazy on March 01, 2021, 12:49:54 PM
Hi Gerard,

That looks very interesting and I'll certainly bear it in mind. Once the engine that I'm laboriously preparing is fitted to the Spider I will initially use the distributor that I have had refurbished at HH Ignition, as that is a known quantity to get the car up and running. I will also be using an MSD Ignition box and matching coil, and I'm not sure how that would play with the Aldon mappable ignition. I imagine it would be fine, but would need to check with Aldon.

Ultimately something like the Aldon would be a better solution than a distributor simply because of its accuracy, repeatability and configurability. But when I commission the new engine and ancillaries I think it's best to keep it simple and possibly move to mappable ignition once everything else is bedded in and working as intended.

Thanks for the link - much appreciated. Liking the Italian motorbikes from the 80s! Mine are 90s/00s...


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: Jono on March 01, 2021, 03:47:29 PM
Gerard, am living vicariously through this topic about your Beta. Looking on with slight envy. My 2000 Coupe I purchased back in Sep 20 has spent more time in the repair workshop and on the back of recovery trucks. Latest is an incontinent fuel tank, see 'filthy fuel tank' topic... Hey ho, I'll get there one day. On the plus side it is totally structurally sound and never welded. Lhd, from Florence. Silver with olive green fabric, 1977. 145,000 kms. Desperate to be out enjoying it. Jono


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 01, 2021, 06:02:14 PM
I hope you get there soon!  Pics please!

This 1600 was used by me in late 2017 and early 2018 but it went into a barn at that point while I went to work overseas for two years.  Then last  March I came home, and the garage that took the car in to do the clutch had it for months because of too much work.  I eventually got the car back on the road last autumn and since then my visiting mechanic has been slowly improving the car.   The car has had welding to the boot lid in the past, and when I bought it I had some welding done at the front suspension turrets and near the offside front and rear wheel arches, but the Ziebarting when new and, I assume, the care given to the car when it was on the Isle of Man have kept it pretty sound.  The recorded mileage of not much over 50,000 is probably genuine, and the car feels pretty together.

For the rest of this year's projects, there is work to be done on my Appia (brakes), and I await possibly bad news on how rusty my Fiat is underneath the cheap blowover that someone gave it a few years ago.  I also have in mind to get my Lotus engine rebuilt, but for that I need my mechanic to sort out the workshop at his place, and have the car trailered to him.  I am for some reason that I cannot fathom being tempted by a Mazda Luce, a very rare saloon car that has a half Italian half BMW neue klasse looking body designed by Bertone (a design rejected by Alfa).  It is mechanically similar to a Dolomite 1850.  I like very rare and odd cars.  Is anybody anywhere near Bradford?

PS:  I should NOT buy any more cars.  For the same money as some probably boring Japanese family car that nobody has ever heard of I could get a scruffy but mechanically sound Alfetta GT 1800 that I know of, or a very good Hillman Imp, or a  fancy Riley-badged ADO16 or whatever.   My first lottery win car would be a Lancia Aurelia B20 GT, with a Lamborghini Espada to follow.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: Jono on March 01, 2021, 06:31:34 PM
I have some good pics of my Beta on this tablet but sadly I am quite simple minded and don't understand how to transfer them. On the subject of unusual, slightly esoteric cars, I had a Citroen GS for 10 years - sold last year - I miss it very much. It epitimised reliability, with it's air-cooled, flat-four engine. Never once let me down, off road, motorway, it never complained. Am a long way from Bradford, basking on the beach in Brighton, Sussex. Jono


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 01, 2021, 07:19:03 PM
This image uploading site is free.

https://imgbb.com/

Upload to that site, then copy and paste the forum link.

Citroen made very cool and technically interesting cars for so long (often let down by nondescript engines), but nowadays makes rather dull cars.

The mad Mazda is in Bradford, which is an eight hour round trip from where I am.





Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on March 02, 2021, 09:16:10 AM
Gerard

I live near/in Bradford if you want me to look at the Luce. I would suggest however that you are right in that your money would be better spent elsewhere!

Neil


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: frankxhv773t on March 02, 2021, 12:10:09 PM
I think I share your liking for the unusual. I had to look up the Luce but I can definitely see the attraction. You could even sneak Lancia badges on to the wheel trims and pass it off as a Bertone Lancia prototype.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 02, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
A bloke in Australia stuck an Alfa Romeo badge on his Luce and nobody quibbled.

The Rotary engined FWD Luce Coupe is a very rare 100 grand beauty, sold only in Japan.  The more mundane straight four engined RWD Luce saloon is hard to price.  Maybe 8K.  

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 02, 2021, 09:43:48 PM
Gerard

I live near/in Bradford if you want me to look at the Luce. I would suggest however that you are right in that your money would be better spent elsewhere!

Neil


Neil, if it is not a huuuuge fag, I'd be most grateful if you could vey kindly eyeball the Luce.  I would need to know your favourite wine, beer, or whisky ...

Any reckless purchasing decisions would be at my risk!


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 04, 2021, 05:04:44 PM
42 year old boot floor not bad.


(https://i.ibb.co/prtx4P0/betaboot.png) (https://ibb.co/5xN6s9M)


Fuel tank needs a wire brush and paint.


(https://i.ibb.co/n14s1v8/betatank2.png) (https://ibb.co/PWJZWnz)


Now you know what a knackered Beta fuel sender looks like.  You're welcome.


(https://i.ibb.co/QQzJrsW/beta-tank.png) (https://ibb.co/qjXDkbH)



Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: peteracs on March 04, 2021, 06:46:13 PM
Hi Gerard

Way ahead of you on that fuel sender, pretty much what my spare one looks like.....

Peter


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: WestonE on March 04, 2021, 07:13:32 PM
That is a part that crops up regularly on the Italian FB Groups and ebay so worth a look.

Eric


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 04, 2021, 08:33:16 PM
Looking now, thanks.

The tank is now painted and will go back in tomorrow.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on March 05, 2021, 09:29:49 AM
Gerard

I live near/in Bradford if you want me to look at the Luce. I would suggest however that you are right in that your money would be better spent elsewhere!

Neil


Neil, if it is not a huuuuge fag, I'd be most grateful if you could vey kindly eyeball the Luce.  I would need to know your favourite wine, beer, or whisky ...

Any reckless purchasing decisions would be at my risk!

Gerard

PM me the details. I suppose it ought to wait until the 29th, but I'll see what they say.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on March 05, 2021, 09:42:21 AM
Gerard

I live near/in Bradford if you want me to look at the Luce. I would suggest however that you are right in that your money would be better spent elsewhere!

Neil

Got your email!


Neil, if it is not a huuuuge fag, I'd be most grateful if you could vey kindly eyeball the Luce.  I would need to know your favourite wine, beer, or whisky ...

Any reckless purchasing decisions would be at my risk!

Gerard

PM me the details. I suppose it ought to wait until the 29th, but I'll see what they say.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 05, 2021, 11:55:22 AM
You have mail, thanks Neil.

BTW, travelling to look at a car is legal.  Car dealers are still open.   That is, as the saying goes, an opinion, but I've been a barrister for 36 years, if that helps.



Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: frankxhv773t on March 05, 2021, 09:00:40 PM
Thanks for the opinion but I'm fearful of who is going to get the bill......


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 06, 2021, 03:29:01 PM
Ignoring all the deliberate misinformation put out on gov.uk websites, the only enforceable rule is that you need an objectively reasonable excuse for travelling.  That's a very broad concept.   

Meanwhile my Beta is now smooth and quiet and powerful, except when intermittently picking up fuel line obstructions - the tank may need another flush.  The filter is showing some clag.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road
Post by: GerardJPC on March 10, 2021, 05:37:58 PM
Many thanks to Neil for checking out the interesting Mazda.  It's pretty, and ultra rare, but mechanically a bit ordinary.  I was tempted, but a far better car buying opportunity has arisen thanks to the LMC.   


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 12, 2021, 04:56:56 PM
One in, one out!   I have today bought a 1974 Lancia 2000 HF Coupe, so my Beta, which I think is a good one, is now on sale.

I will ask 10,000 on carandclassic, but I suggest a price of 8000 to a Forum member.

Please see

 http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4418.msg30349#msg30349 (http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4418.msg30349#msg30349)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: peteracs on March 12, 2021, 06:34:45 PM
Hi Gerard

I have to say I have always liked the look of the 2000 and viewed it as a sensible option against a Flaminia Coupe...... Not that I am likely to get either in the near future!

Very happy tinkering with the Spider however.

Peter


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 12, 2021, 06:39:30 PM
Here it is -


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(https://i.ibb.co/26gqQNc/20-mar-2019-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jd5n4Qr)

(https://i.ibb.co/48xH9PB/2000int1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HtQj1nm)

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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: rossocorsa on March 12, 2021, 07:01:07 PM
Here it is -


(https://i.ibb.co/VJ2JhzV/009-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jm5mbGn)

(https://i.ibb.co/KXV7bsD/011-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XbFpj5D)

(https://i.ibb.co/26gqQNc/20-mar-2019-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jd5n4Qr)

(https://i.ibb.co/48xH9PB/2000int1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HtQj1nm)

(https://i.ibb.co/X7gmhC3/200int2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zXYKy47)



Looks like the b one I owned for a long time HJD208N?


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 12, 2021, 07:46:35 PM
That's the one!   I promise to look after it.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: rossocorsa on March 12, 2021, 09:30:50 PM
That's the one!   I promise to look after it.

I enjoyed it a lot over the years having saved it from a premature death with a comprehensive body rebuild in the late 80s that seems to have survived the ravages of time very well indeed. It was always great fun to throw around country lanes and also an accomplished 100+ MPH cruiser a true marvel.     


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 12, 2021, 09:42:28 PM
I have your resto photos.  The restoration has lasted well.  The car now needs one or maybe two new wheel arches, but is in pretty good shape overall.  I look forward to driving it once the brakes are sorted.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 15, 2021, 03:38:52 AM
Lots of views on eBay and carandclassic, but so far the only offers are:

1.  swap for a Porsche 944 in a tomato soup colour.  Nice enough, but not my bag!

2.  PX for a 2000 Honda Civic plus some (not enough) money.

eBay yay!

Things may pick up as thoughts turn to spring and post lockdown jollies, but Betas are probably still a hard sell outside Lancia World because of all the pub mythology and Clarkson nonsense.   I  might give the car a whirl with The Market, who charge 5% IIRC.  It has matching posh tyres so ticks their boxes.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 15, 2021, 03:44:03 AM
rossocorsa, I am trying to piece together the history of HJD 208N.   

Please feel free to correct any errors here -

https://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12276.msg88161#msg88161 (https://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12276.msg88161#msg88161)

If you don't mind, could you very kindly email me via this site at your leisure so that I can bother you with a couple of no doubt foolish questions about the car.     


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on March 23, 2021, 01:18:35 PM
I highly recommend the Amethyst digital ignition voodoo.   The Beta is flying.  That 1970 Porsche 911 going up that hill yesterday might have wondered what the bronze coloured blur whizzing past might be.   The only 1970s car with a 1.6 engine that I have driven which was quicker was a Lotus Elan Plus Two with a big valve Lotus/Ford 1.6 twin cam and two fat Dellortos.

I will probably still have to sell the car to free up space and money for my latest Lancia purchase, but I will have fun with the Beta first.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road NOW FOR SALE
Post by: GerardJPC on April 27, 2021, 11:02:14 AM
I have been enjoying this car so much just recently that I am not sure about selling it....

In addition, my Fiat 124 will be off the road for major welding for a while, so for sporty, nippy buzzbox fun, maybe I should keep the Beta after all.  My 2000 HF can be for more languid cruising duties as it is a bit more chilled out on motorways than the Beta is. 


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on May 12, 2021, 03:52:15 PM
OK, decided:  I am keeping the Beta for now because it is lots of fun.



Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: peteracs on May 12, 2021, 11:10:49 PM
Hi Gerard

Good man!

Peter


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on June 15, 2021, 07:42:32 PM
Correct use of standard fit Negroni holder -


(https://i.ibb.co/jG5M5Q4/negroni.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZKJ8JFT)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on June 17, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
CHOOOOONZE!


(https://i.ibb.co/7p1vbFy/beta-radio1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwrhHF4)

(https://i.ibb.co/ZTzd7Q9/beta-radio-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GPQ7NZm)



Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on June 20, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
Weekend jollies in East Sussex -



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Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on June 21, 2021, 05:08:25 PM
Hoorah for Ziebart -


https://i.ibb.co/HrSG07G/betarain.jpg[/img]](https://i.ibb.co/HrSG07G/betarain.jpg) (http://[img)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: SanRemo78 on June 21, 2021, 05:21:52 PM
I think you might need to find a better method for securing that number plate Gerard!


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on June 21, 2021, 06:08:25 PM
It is temporary, because I am waiting for the UK T plate to be re-registered.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on June 29, 2021, 04:41:31 PM
Filter King fitted - hopefully this will assist with some fuel debris problems that I have been having.

 (https://i.ibb.co/cCxgRyN/betaeng.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2s5nRFj)

(https://i.ibb.co/tLK6Nff/betafilter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g498X11)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on July 06, 2021, 06:01:20 AM
Lonely station runner at 0420.


(https://i.ibb.co/JdsfnCf/betastation.jpg) (https://ibb.co/thJ7B37)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on July 20, 2021, 06:09:16 AM
The Facebook Beta Groups are useful for parts.  I have at long last found a matching Vitaloni door mirror for my Beta.  It's as new.  This presents a quandary, as the mirror that is on the car at present has been painted black because the chrome is pitted.  I had better check out getting that one re-chromed, as it seems a shame to paint the shiny new mirror black.


(https://i.ibb.co/xF09jJ6/beta-mirror.png) (https://ibb.co/7k5MW2K)


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: WestonE on July 20, 2021, 08:23:19 AM
Hi Gerard

You can also get it chrome sprayed as I saw on a recent episode of Salvage Hunters Classic cars. It was an episode with a Volvo Amazon.

Eric


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe back on the road - Keeping it!
Post by: GerardJPC on July 20, 2021, 09:21:16 AM
Thanks, that might do it.


Title: Re: 1979 1600 Coupe
Post by: Sandro on July 20, 2021, 12:57:24 PM
Lovely mirror Gerard!

 :)