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Technical stuff => Electrical => Topic started by: Sandro on May 16, 2020, 11:44:28 AM



Title: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Sandro on May 16, 2020, 11:44:28 AM
Hi all,

I wonder if you can help, I'm upgrading my Battery ( It's seen better days ) and besides getting the right fit size wise.
..whats the best AH rating to get ...they range between 44amp, 55, 70 and so on.

I have an ( unmodified ) 1984 2000 I.E. model.

Many thanks Andrew

   


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: rossocorsa on May 16, 2020, 01:51:17 PM
The original taking was 45 Ah but you could probably go for something with more reserve


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Sandro on May 16, 2020, 02:25:51 PM
many thanks Rossocorsa. :)

A.



Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: peteracs on May 16, 2020, 05:43:58 PM
Hi

Make sure it is not a leisure battery, ie get one suitable for starting the car. Although I have not direct knowledge, I believe they are constructed different. Ie a car one is designed for high current over short periods and the leisure are designed for lower current over extended periods for mobility scooters etc.

Peter


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Orbital on May 16, 2020, 08:33:57 PM
This discussion came up on the FB page not necessarily for an upgrade but this was what some people recommend as a replacement.

https://www.batterycharged.co.uk/shop/brands/duracell-automotive/duracell-advanced-battery-range/duracell-075-da60t-advanced-car-1241053.html?fbclid=IwAR1vMS4Wz8t6HKqHZsWBg3_Ra1JRXOX3DDbbFWJx6GQ-luVoI31GlXqVO-I (https://www.batterycharged.co.uk/shop/brands/duracell-automotive/duracell-advanced-battery-range/duracell-075-da60t-advanced-car-1241053.html?fbclid=IwAR1vMS4Wz8t6HKqHZsWBg3_Ra1JRXOX3DDbbFWJx6GQ-luVoI31GlXqVO-I)


Cheers George


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: smithymc on May 17, 2020, 08:49:27 AM
I got one of these last year, a Varta C6 Silver Dynamic 52 Ah. Got it from Manbat in Shrewsbury. It really has some cranking power and fits the clamp perfectly- although I appreciate mine isn't an i.e.

Mark


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: betaveloce on May 17, 2020, 09:00:44 AM
I have a Varta with the same characteristics as the Duracell (60 Ah and 540 A) in my HPE I.E.

The 45 Ah Rossocorsa is referring to, is for a carburated car I think.
The injection cars also have a heavier alternator than the carburated ones (65 Ah instead of 55 if I recall correctly).


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Sandro on May 17, 2020, 10:45:58 AM
Hi

Make sure it is not a leisure battery, ie get one suitable for starting the car. Although I have not direct knowledge, I believe they are constructed different. Ie a car one is designed for high current over short periods and the leisure are designed for lower current over extended periods for mobility scooters etc.

Peter

Thanks everyone. that's useful (and timely) advice. I'm planning to replace the battery this week,
I'm having power 'drop-outs' and after initially thinking it was fuel supply related I think it's electrical so a fresh battery is a good start.
I'm going to take a look at the Alternator ...on one occasion the Alternator made a nasty noise ( for a period after the ignition was turned off )
maybe it was due to not getting enough power ?

Thanks again Andrew.

   


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: rossocorsa on May 17, 2020, 11:33:45 AM
I have a Varta with the same characteristics as the Duracell (60 Ah and 540 A) in my HPE I.E.

The 45 Ah Rossocorsa is referring to, is for a carburated car I think.
The injection cars also have a heavier aiiii
I have a Varta with the same characteristics as the Duracell (60 Ah and 540 A) in my HPE I.E.

The 45 Ah Rossocorsa is referring to, is for a carburated car I think.
The injection cars also have a heavier alternator than the carburated ones (65 Ah instead of 55 if I recall correctly).
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lternator than the carburated ones (65 Ah instead of 55 if I recall correctly).

The ie does have a bigger alternator but the l battery Ah was the same, I checked the tech book but as I said you can buy a bigger capacity of required.


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on May 17, 2020, 03:00:49 PM
I got one of these last year, a Varta C6 Silver Dynamic 52 Ah. Got it from Manbat in Shrewsbury. It really has some cranking power and fits the clamp perfectly- although I appreciate mine isn't an i.e.

Mark

How much was it Mark? I like Varta batteries and my current one has had a few too many recharges from winter lay ups I think.


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: betaveloce on May 17, 2020, 05:15:19 PM
I have a Varta with the same characteristics as the Duracell (60 Ah and 540 A) in my HPE I.E.

The 45 Ah Rossocorsa is referring to, is for a carburated car I think.
The injection cars also have a heavier alternator than the carburated ones (65 Ah instead of 55 if I recall correctly).

The ie does have a bigger alternator but the l battery Ah was the same, I checked the tech book but as I said you can buy a bigger capacity of required.

Oops, sorry, I wasn't aware that the batteries where the same despite the alternators being different...  ;)


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Sandro on May 17, 2020, 09:24:23 PM
I got one of these last year, a Varta C6 Silver Dynamic 52 Ah. Got it from Manbat in Shrewsbury. It really has some cranking power and fits the clamp perfectly- although I appreciate mine isn't an i.e.

Mark

Many thanks Mark I'll see if I can track one down.

Thanks Kevin, Neil, George Peter and Rossocorsa also.


A.





Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: smithymc on May 18, 2020, 08:45:08 AM
I think it was 60, which seems to be the going rate still online.

Mark


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: WestonE on May 18, 2020, 03:39:04 PM
I will run with a 62 Amp Hour battery with my Bosch 65 Amp IE spec alternator, but I do have a supercharger and modern mapped FI to wire in. Have a critical look at your battery leads and consider some new custom red and black heavy gauge replacements. So many Beta items are a tatty corroded mess. A good battery earth and good battery starter/alternator connections fix many strange electrical issues. Replacements must be at least the same wire core size preferably thinner modern multi-core flexible items.

Clean up the earth connection points and add contact grease when you are done.

Eric 


Title: Re: Replacement Battery / AH rating.
Post by: Sandro on May 18, 2020, 04:11:12 PM
Thanks Eric,

I think that you're right, having a decent look at some of these connections today in the Garage,
they are indeed old and could do with looking at replacing and / or cleaning, I'm putting in fresh HT leads on, will check the distributor etc.

A friends Dad who once worked on betas here in Denmark also thinks that it's a poor connection somewhere ( as opposed to fuel supply ) given the way the power drops and comes back ..or not as the case may be.

I'll let you know what I find.

Many thanks Andrew.