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Title: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: peteracs on January 11, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
Hi All

Just about to order a new screen for the HPE, which is pretty simple as the same as for the Spyder I already bought, but I noticed they have more than two styles as well as endless tint options, anyone know why before I ask? The style/size is the number e.g. 4716, the rest is the tint. So for the normal bonded windscreen it is 4716, I want clear with green tint, so total part is 4716ACLGN

Peter

From Pilkington website

https://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automotive/classic-cars-home/makes-and-models/all-makes-and-models?make=lancia (https://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automotive/classic-cars-home/makes-and-models/all-makes-and-models?make=lancia)

LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716ABLBL   4716ABLBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE 78 8
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716ABZ   4716ABZ LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE 78 83
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716ABZBL   4716ABZBL LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HP
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716ACL   4716ACL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE 76
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716ACLBL   4716ACLBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716ACLGN   4716ACLGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716AGN   4716AGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE 76
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716AGNBL   4716AGNBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE
LANCIA   BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HPE   HT0508   4716AGNGN   4716AGNGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717ABL   4717ABL LANCIA BETA TREVI 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717ABZ   4717ABZ LANCIA BETA TREVI 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717ABZBL   4717ABZBL LANCIA BETA TREVI 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717ACL   4717ACL LANCIA BETA 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717ACLBL   4717ACLBL LANCIA BETA 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717ACLGN   4717ACLGN LANCIA BETA 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717AGN   4717AGN LANCIA BETA 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717AGNBL   4717AGNBL LANCIA BETA TREVI 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2   HT0586   4717AGNGN   4717AGNGN LANCIA BETA 2 76 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720ABZ   4720ABZ LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720ABZBL   4720ABZBL LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720ACL   4720ACL LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720ACLBL   4720ACLBL LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720ACLGN   4720ACLGN LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720AGN   4720AGN LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720AGNBL   4720AGNBL LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA 2, TREVI   HT0442   4720AGNGN   4720AGNGN LANCIA BETA 2 SAL 78
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723ABZ   4723ABZ LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723ABZBL   4723ABZBL LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723ACL   4723ACL LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723ACLBL   4723ACLBL LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723ACLGN   4723ACLGN LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723AGN   4723AGN LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87
LANCIA   BETA COUPE   HT0827   4723AGNGN   4723AGNGN LANCIA BETA CPE 83 87


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: lanciamad on January 13, 2022, 08:09:02 AM
Hi Peter,

I'm no help unfortunately, but also looking for advise on this. I have a chip/crack in the "A" area so am prepared that I may need to get a new screen for mot/need to replace in near future. My car is a HPE IE, and believe are fitted differently to older cars? Any idea's what correct screen would be?

I asked a windscreen company that didn't even get back to me with a reply/quote for a new screen, but looks like they are still available, do you know rough costs?

All the best, Marcus


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: peteracs on January 13, 2022, 08:31:34 AM
Hi Marcus

As I mentioned I thought there were only 2 styles, the original bonded type and the later removable/reusable rubber gasket type. It should be pretty simple to check which you have?

Also contact Pilkington Classics direct they are very helpful in my experience. I would be wary of local glass company getting it correct, especially as these are special order only normally.

Peter


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: chrisc on January 13, 2022, 08:46:38 PM
I got a new screen for my s2 fl coupe from pilkingtons around august / sep -

Eurocode

Description

Price

4716ABLBL - Blue with a blue top tint

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    368.39

4716ABZ - Bronze

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    389.49

4716ABZBL - Bronze with a blue top tint

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    368.39

4716ACL - Clear

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    315.92

4716ACLBL - Clear with a blue top tint

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    289.75

4716ACLGN - Clear with a green top tint

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    325.96

4716AGN - Green

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    316.61

4716AGNBL - Green with a blue top tint

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    327.04

4716AGNGN - Green with a green top tint

LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 CPE+HPE 76-83

£    327.04



plus £40 delivery where I am.. not cheap, but better than not having a windscreen :D


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: peteracs on January 14, 2022, 09:03:58 AM
Hi Chris

Looking at my recent invoice expect 10% up on those prices and there is vat to add to the price. All in looks like around £480 for my screen now.

Peter


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: Clifford on January 14, 2022, 11:26:02 AM
Hi guys.
Reading this with interest as I will need a new screen at some point as it is beginning to delaminate.
Presumably all those will fit a Spyder other than those noted as Trevi?
Thanks
C


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: peteracs on January 14, 2022, 11:40:04 AM
Correction on prices. I queried it and was priced in error, so now priced as per list above, but given prediction on increases, no idea how long they will keep these prices.

Chris, if you have a bonded in type windscreen, then the 4716A is the one you will need. You can easily check the size with a tape measure. Measure top to bottom at the centre and at the widest point side to side to get the dimensions. Not so easy with the surround installed, but possible.

Dimension on 4716 is 1283 x 681

Peter


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: peteracs on January 14, 2022, 03:05:42 PM
I have received some info back from Pilkingtons. Because I asked before New Year, they kept the old pricing. The 2022 pricing is as follows with £50 delivery, all + vat.

Please see below for 2022 prices
 
4716ABLBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE 78 8     £397.86
4716ABZ LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE 78 83     £420.65
4716ABZBL LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HP     £397.86
4716ACL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE 76     £341.19
4716ACLBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £312.93
4716ACLGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £352.04
4716AGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE 76     £341.94
4716AGNBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £353.20
4716AGNGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £353.20
 


Title: Re: Different windscreen style/sizes and tints
Post by: Nigel on August 17, 2022, 08:24:41 PM
I have received some info back from Pilkingtons. Because I asked before New Year, they kept the old pricing. The 2022 pricing is as follows with £50 delivery, all + vat.

Please see below for 2022 prices
 
4716ABLBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE 78 8     £397.86
4716ABZ LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE 78 83     £420.65
4716ABZBL LANCIA BETA 1600-2000 COUPE,HP     £397.86
4716ACL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE 76     £341.19
4716ACLBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £312.93
4716ACLGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £352.04
4716AGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE 76     £341.94
4716AGNBL LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £353.20
4716AGNGN LANCIA BETA 1600 2000 CPE+HPE     £353.20
 

Just an update to Peters post.
I was quoted this exact list and prices however the delivery charge has risen to £90 as at 9 Aug 22