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« on: March 02, 2022, 01:06:54 PM »

Hi all.
Has anyone managed to find a source for a replacement weather seal for the rear "u" shaped metal hoop which holds the bottom of the soft top to the body behind the rear seats?
I haven't taken the hood off yet, but assume it fits between the back of this hoop and the body to stop water ingress?
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2022, 04:54:28 PM »

Hi Clifford

Yes a supplier in Italy who also make the main hood seal and the roof seals. Now I just need to find their name! It was not this one but they look useful https://www.comptoirducabriolet.com/en/lancia-beta-spider-convertible-custom-gaskets/sunroof-seal-front-rear-2nd-series-convertibles-lancia-beta-spider.html

Or this one although also probably useful
https://www.elvezio.com/en/lancia/lancia-beta-spider-1600-1800-2000/rubber-sections-lancia-beta-spider-1600-1800-2000/doors-lower-external-profile-lancia-beta-spider-1600-1800-2000.html

Bear with me whilst I find a label in a crate.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2022, 09:28:23 PM »

Thanks Eric. I would appreciate the name if you manage to find it.
At the moment I am not clear, having read a manual about exactly how to remove this hoop. I can see a bolt or screw each side of the the car behind the rear internal side panel trims and I think the manual is saying there are alsoan adoring 2 bolts to hold the hoop against the back of the car just in front of the boot aperture.
It's not clear however how to get to them but suspect I have to remove the rear parcel shelf.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2022, 10:12:27 PM »

Hi

The bolts do need the rear parcel shelf removing to access them. To remove it you probably have to remove the rear seat backs.

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2022, 01:02:15 AM »

That makes sense Peter.
Is it just 2 bolts along the back and is the şhelf accessed by releasing a couple of bolts from the boot.
I have had the back rests out so know how to do that.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2022, 10:13:54 AM »

Hi Clifford

Finally here you go  https://www.cicognaniguarnizioni.it/Lancia-132

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2022, 10:42:40 AM »

That makes sense Peter.
Is it just 2 bolts along the back and is the şhelf accessed by releasing a couple of bolts from the boot.
I have had the back rests out so know how to do that.
Cheers
C

Hi

There are more than 2 bolts holding the hoop. They are held by bolts into floating captive nuts (on mine at least) and a number of mine were missing or the bolts sheared off. A previous owner had drilled pilot holes and used self tappers to resolve the problem which works if not so pretty as replacing the captive nuts is a major job.

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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2022, 10:55:44 AM »

Thank you Eric for the information. The source must have taken a bit of finding originally.
Porter that really sounds like a load of fun.
You haven't got any pictures taken when you did the work have you?
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2022, 12:15:27 PM »

Thank you Eric for the information. The source must have taken a bit of finding originally.
Porter that really sounds like a load of fun.
You haven't got any pictures taken when you did the work have you?

Hi

I suspect not thinking about it, it is all pretty obvious when you have the rear parcel shelf lifted up.

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2022, 02:14:30 PM »

I have some pics - I'll attach them this evening.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2022, 03:19:17 PM »

Thanks guys
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2022, 09:41:02 PM »

The bolts are behind the small vertical bit of the rear panel cover

Sadly not with the frame in place but you can see the bolts here. If you take the bolts out you'll find that the captive nuts aren't and they'll happily slide out of reach and are a pig to fish back.



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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2022, 03:41:42 AM »

Thank you for your help Stuart
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2022, 01:40:34 PM »

Hi all.
I am sorry to say, even with the links provided by Eric I am struggling to 100% identify the correct seal for the"U" shaped hoop holding the bottom of the soft top at the rear of the soft top to the the body just in front of the boot lid aperture.
This still, after several emails to each of the companies in the links.

So a little further help would be appreciated if possible please.
On my series 2 face-lift I can see what appears to be a simple "U" shaped rubber seal sitting over a lip which sits upwards on the rear edge of the car and then the soft top metal hoop bolts up against it to provide the seal to stop water ingress.
Is what I am looking for as simple as that, or is that maybe what the previous owner had used because they couldn't find the correct seal do you think?
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2022, 01:48:34 PM »

https://www.cicognaniguarnizioni.it/Lancia-132/beta-spider-132-g78/guarnizione-post.-tettuccio-dietro-roll-bar-_solo-1aserie_-13278203_5112

This is the link provided by one of the companies which based on my description,  they think is the correct seal but it might not be and language barriers might be the problem. This is also just for the series one but I would think for this part of the hood it was the same size and shape across all series.

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2022, 05:12:20 PM »

Hi Clifford

That link is not the seal you are looking for. That one is for the closing section the hood pulls up to. It really is that simple U Channel seal that goes under the hold down half hoop. I think mine came from Cicognani but you could also try seals direct using the measurements from you current part.

Eric
Maybe send Cicognani a picture of the current one.

   
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2022, 06:28:33 PM »

Thanks Eric.
That's confirms what I had concluded.
The good thing is I am now fairly well educated on the hood seals and have sources for the others if and when I need them regards.
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