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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2021, 09:49:00 AM »

Hi Eric

Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like the way to go.

Peter
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« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2022, 07:29:42 PM »

Hi All

Long time since I posted on here. I decided to keep the Spider as original with its 1600 and this engine build is still going ahead, but the target is now the HPE. Although the engine build will be delayed, I decided as prices are going up to start buying parts. First up is an order on Jenvey for 2 off DCNF throttle bodies suitable for Bosch injectors. The injectors seem easy enough to come by and not sure which to buy yet. Eric has suggest 330cl EV14, but there are long and short bodies and have to do some mocking up to decide which to go for.

Hope to visit Alan over the coming weeks to collect a VX flywheel and Mark M has indicated he has an IE gearbox as the VX versions are thin on the ground which would have been my preferred option for diff ratio, but I think the IE one will do nicely.

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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2022, 11:50:20 AM »

This is an area for me to reconsider. New Cam lube just before start up remains a recommendation as does pre spin to prime before start up. However If building an engine that will sit for a long time assembly lube designed for the job is probably a sound idea given the engine will start on running in oil. You would not want to butter the engine in this build lube as you do want the bores to bed to the rings. It should NOT be used on the bores.

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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2022, 05:53:42 PM »

Well, Jenvey quote made to order on the dcnf throttle bodies, so expected a month or so wait. no such luck ordered last week, shipped to me today, looking forward to getting them. Had a conversation re the spindle connection and they should be coming with appropriate linkage, will be interested seeing what they send.

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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2022, 07:27:01 PM »

Hi Peter

An exciting parcel!
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« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2022, 06:08:51 PM »

Yep, arrived today, only slight issue is they sent for Pico injectors when I asked for Bosch. Not sure of the difference, but they are sending what I need to allow me to use them when I get around to buying the injectors.

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« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2022, 07:54:35 PM »

Hi Peter

Very nice! Do you have airflow trumpets with the package? You would not want them high, but definitely you want a radius bell mouth input with a roll back on the lip. The need is not as extreme as for 45 DCOE where the original Weber trumpets belong in a museum and you want as wide a trumpet with roll back as you can fit. ITG and Pipercross are examples.

You want Throttle body bore size height above the trumpets to airbox lid as clearance as a rule of thumb. These things are about maximizing torque and throttle response with many hours of rolling road and dyno time invested.

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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2022, 12:09:25 AM »

Hi Eric

No trumpets yet. I was hoping to go down the 3D printed route for the air box after I have sorted air cleaners, but the trumpet point is interesting and will influence the design and which filter to go for. Interestingly the throttle bodies are much lower in height than the original carb, so a bit more room for the air box and trumpets than I thought.

Peter
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« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2022, 01:46:50 PM »

A few more bits arrived, this time from Vicks. The vernier wheels appear nicely made and are significantly cheaper than the others I have seen, even with the import VAT charged.

I also bought a new belt and freeze plugs.

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« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2022, 04:56:31 PM »

I still love shiny bits! Even better when they are not too expensive.
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« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2022, 11:42:03 AM »

Hi

A few more bits purchased, piston ring pliers and compressor and plastigage in anticipation of building the engine which is some way off yet….

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« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2022, 11:43:27 PM »

The other week I picked up a VX flywheel from Alan, thanks for that. I had been looking for a clutch for the engine and based on Graham’s suggestion looked at Lancia Thema and Alfa 164 clutches. I knew I needed a 228mm one to suit the VX flywheel and that I would need to buy a clutch release bearing separately. So after much (too much as it happens) looking I placed an order with Autodoc. The clutch and bearing duly arrived and yes I managed to order the smaller 215mm clutch, idiot! I have to say that Autodoc are remarkably efficient in their returns and on applying and explaining via their online system and returns shipment via Parcelforce came through on email. Very impressed.

I also have had to return the fuel rail mounts to Jenvey as the ones supplied are for the Pico style injectors and I am planning to use Bosch EV14 compact style on Eric’s suggestion. They were also helpful in changing them out without hassle. I am in the process of ordering the injectors which vary in price a fair bit so we’ll worth shopping around as the ones I need are pretty common especially on US cars.


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