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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2019, 09:43:10 PM »

How sensitive is the adjusting screw  ?   I think I may be "overdoing it" when adjusting.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2019, 12:41:06 PM »

It is sensitive, less than one turn transformed 1st & 2nd on my car from unselectable to easy.....
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2019, 02:17:24 PM »

Thank you for that info.
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2019, 06:33:19 PM »

Linkage sorted,  no idea the adjustment screw was so sensitive,  ended up using 1/4 turns to get it right.  Many thanks for all the advice.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2019, 10:01:02 PM »

That's worth knowing (sensitivity of adjuster). Tiny steps seem to be the order of the day.
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2019, 01:33:57 PM »

Lightning strikes twice!

After servicing the 1300 Coupe yesterday it was used for a nice drive up the Holme Valley to a lovely Italian restaurant near Holmfirth. Last set of traffic lights before home, change down from 3rd and bingo, the gear stick comes loose in my hand. Luckily even the 1300 could limp home in 3rd. At least I know how to fix it now. Perhaps the mid 60K miles and/or 38 to 40 years is as much as the linkage is good for??
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2019, 02:48:49 PM »

Perhaps the mid 60K miles and/or 38 to 40 years is as much as the linkage is good for??
That's very interesting - my 2000  Spider has done fractionally under 60k miles and is 39 years old. You may have spotted a pattern...
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2019, 03:30:33 PM »

Indeed. Mine is 42 now- I have had the kit on the shelf for a while, looks like Iíll be fitting it pretty pronto!

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2019, 08:50:38 AM »

Indeed. Mine is 42 now- I have had the kit on the shelf for a while, looks like Iíll be fitting it pretty pronto!

Mark

It seems to be the bushes that collapse, rather than the cross link that breaks. Though while you are working on it, it is definitely worth fitting the upgraded link, as that transforms the change.
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2019, 09:18:28 AM »

One of the joints on the 1300's cross link was very worn, so glad I ordered that as well. So both my cars now have the upgraded link. It makes the gear change feel surprisingly different, far more positive, but somehow notchy. I'm sure I'll soon warm to it, just odd after 14 years of Beta driving....
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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2019, 06:50:04 PM »

One of the joints on the 1300's cross link was very worn, so glad I ordered that as well. So both my cars now have the upgraded link. It makes the gear change feel surprisingly different, far more positive, but somehow notchy. I'm sure I'll soon warm to it, just odd after 14 years of Beta driving....
I suspect you're adjusting to the lack of vagueness that there is in the standard setup. The 'slop' in the standard bushes and crosslink has been removed and that's probably what makes it feel notchy.
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2021, 10:11:42 AM »

I know this is an old thread but there is some relevant information.
I have had all my linkages replaced, gearbox oil replaced, bush and seals on front linkage replace and think adjustment is needed as I too have problems getting into 5th gear.

I was assuming it'll be the length of the "Gear linkage Ideal Rod" as it's adjustable, but this post suggests it's the one at the front.
I currently have battery, radiator, starter, carbs out of engine bay for refurb so an ideal time to adjust the linkage as full access.

Is it as simple as trying to select a gear, and then adjust front linkage 1/4 turn, and repeat? Or should I be double checking the Ideal Rod first?
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2021, 12:30:40 PM »

Hi John,
5th gear [and reverse] is when the input shaft is pushed down into the gearbox,
so yes, a 1/4 turn clockwise on the top nut [not forgetting to slacken off the bottom nut] would be
my suggestion. If that doesn't show improvement then try lengthening the ideal rod a 1/4 turn.

Is reverse a bit tricky as well? I think it's a balancing act between the two adjustments.
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