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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2020, 12:55:12 AM »

Thatís interesting. When I put the recaros back in my car after a 15 year lay up, I only had one roller in each runner. Thought it was odd but the seats kind of work so I didnít give it any more thought. Just put it down to shoddy old 80ís engineering.

Looks like I will have to re-visit the seat runners now.

One thing I decided to do was to raise the drivers seat and tilt them forward a little with alloy blocks under the bolt points. I always felt the recaro seats where too low compared to the regular spongy seats and the driving position less than ideal. Depends on you physique I guess but I really benefit from the height/angle change.

Keep up the strange work

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A long time since I've driven mine but I added packers to the front to tilt the base back a bit as otherwise leg support was poor  leading to creaking limbs on long drives.
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2020, 08:16:30 AM »

Fun with VX Recaro Seat mounts and runners over the last couple of days has meant stripping the runners from 6 seats to make a set since they were all seized up! They are an odd design with 3 large wheel runners each which go missing or end up jammed  in the middle.

Just 1 more odd challenge I was not expecting. At least I have a pair of front seats with the full fabric and even the seat back pocket.

Onto the next strange challenge.

Eric

Eric,
I donít suppose you have one to hand that you could measure please.

Iíd like to knock a few up in nylon before I take my seats out to replace them.

Many thanks
Ian

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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2020, 01:43:07 PM »

Hi Ian

I have a spare runner with notches in the rubber bit I can send you. PM me the address please.  There should be 2 rollers in each runner (not 3!) and there should be stop plates on the mounting bolts so they can not move to far and throw the rollers out. On several of mine there was only 1 roller left and it had got stuck in the centre jamming the runner. The old grease had set to concrete, but with picking the best bits, soaking in the pats washer and using fresh moly grease I have a car set of runners and bits the platers will make fit to use to build a spare set. Onto the next job!

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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2020, 05:51:47 PM »

Hi Beta Fans

I thought I would share a couple more photos.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2020, 05:54:31 PM »

And some more Photos of the ongoing challenge[/img]


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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2020, 06:41:52 PM »

Hi Eric

I have to say I had the seats recovered, but never considered the runners being U/S. another job to add to the list To check when I get them out of storage in the loft....

Peter
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2020, 08:23:23 PM »

Hi Peter

I checked mine whilst I was nearby in the loft and got a shock. Hence the fix. Check the frame pivots and fold down mechanism whilst you are there.

Good luck Eric

NB these are VX Coupe Recaro runners so maybe normal seat ones are better.
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2020, 11:05:19 PM »

Hi,
the standard rollers have a much smaller rolling diameter,almost half in fact, and the channels
are less deep. Design the same though.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2020, 09:43:03 AM »

Hi Nigel

If they were standard runners I could just buy new ones from Car Builder Solutions. The VX ones are specials for the Recaros!
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2020, 09:45:38 AM »

I thought I would share the Nuts and bolts of the job!


* Build It Table 2 (Large) (1).jpg (481.49 KB, 1440x1080 - viewed 153 times.)

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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2020, 09:46:47 AM »



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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2020, 09:49:27 AM »

You will notice Gold Passivate plated fixings where the platers have transformed the corroded OE Nuts and bolts on a big scale saving me a fortune in new nuts and bolts.
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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2020, 08:01:52 AM »

I have worked out how to build my front strut brace using an off the shelf OMP universal item for the adjustable bar that ensures the tension needed is there. A trip to the laser cutters soon to get card board made into steel before some simple welding and painting.

Image of the pattern.
 


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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2020, 08:05:14 AM »

BTW the small passivated bit holds the bumper rubber end so I will ask if they can make them in stainless cheaply.
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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2020, 08:59:25 AM »

Nice detail.

Thought the small passivated bracket looked familiar. Was stripping and polishing the front bumper yesterday and had those in my hand.

Looking forward to seeing the completed bracing.

Ian
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2020, 05:19:14 PM »

Hi Eric

I too will be interested in seeing the bracing, something I had wondered what was possible to buy to make one.

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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2020, 01:54:35 PM »

Some more bits of the puzzle like the OMP bit of the strut brace with the adjuster.


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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2020, 01:57:20 PM »

And a few more like making new fixing for the bumper rubbers with Inserts from Car Builder Solutions and Tiger Seal.


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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2020, 02:02:22 PM »



* Bumper Inserts (Large).jpg (337.08 KB, 1440x1080 - viewed 89 times.)

* Bumper Inserts and Tiger Seal (Large).jpg (312.42 KB, 1440x1080 - viewed 93 times.)
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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2020, 08:33:27 PM »

And now I am strangely excited that I will be receiving a Nardi Evolution Gear Knob to go with the quick shift gear lever (thanks to Mark at Beta Boyz).
I am still challenged by creating a leather gaiter for the gear lever but I have a cunning plan to quote Baldrick and Black Adder.

Eric
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