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« on: November 30, 2017, 05:40:06 PM »

I know it's been cold, but not that cold! Upon giving the car a glance over before MOT time, I've come across the end casing having a crack at one of the bolts. Made even stranger because those bolts have never been touched in my ownership of 11 years and it was certainly fine the last time I had the wheel off and have done little mileage since, so why all of a sudden now?
A known weak point? Be interested to hear if anyone else has had this?

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 06:38:50 PM »

Looks like electrolytic corrosion between the steel bolt and the alloy casing? Built up over the years around the threads until the casing has failed. Never seen that before though.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 07:45:45 PM »

I've not seen that before on a Beta gearbox, but I've seen it on the exposed front engine mount on a VFR750 Honda. As Neil says, corrosion between dissimilar metals (normally steel and aluminium) builds up, often assisted by road salt and water, until the aluminium expands to the point that it 'blows', fracturing the casing.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 08:48:23 PM »

I agree with Neil and Graham and I have seen it before on a Beta Gearbox. I used stainless bolts and copper slip on my gearbox re-build.

You just need a replacement end casing and a set of bolts so not the worst that could happen.

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 05:43:48 PM »

Agree with corrosion, maybe previously removed in it's life at some point to corrode more than the others as the others are fine, just that one bolt. Not causing any issue as it is, but will look out for an end casing and replace the bolts for stainless at the same time.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 05:48:55 PM »

Since you are a racer , i would not recommend stainless steel.
I would repair this as follows.
Remove the good bolts one a a time.
clean the bolt and put copaslip on the hole bolt.
clean the hole with a suitable drill.
fasten with only 1,5 ftlb
Repeat this with al the bolts
now the cracked one
Remove the bolt
Remove all the oxidation in the crack an surroundings (dremel)
Fill up the cleaned crack with DEVCON 10611 aluminium putty F
Give it at least 24 hours to harden.
Redrill the hole
intsall the bolt agaain with copaslip.
fasten this with 1,5 ftlb
If everything looks good, fasten all the bolts to 1,9 ftlb. That is enough.

Leo (grey Lancia HPE 1979)
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