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Author Topic: Partial wiring diagram for f/l spyder urgently required  (Read 3168 times)
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« on: June 08, 2017, 08:33:59 AM »

Does anyone have a wiring diagram covering the permanently live circuits in a face-lift spyder 1979 carb model
I have almost everything sorted on mine except for the electrical stuff that should work without the key such as cigarette lighter, side lights, courtesy light, under bonnet light and dash lights
The horn works fine and if I run a jumper wire from the battery + terminal to fuses 1 and 2, everything works but the lights stay on
The main feed to the fuse box is apparently fine but I'm missing something
My Haynes manual only has a diagram for the pre face-lift car with 11 fuses and in that respect has no resemblance to the 16 fuse box in the '79
Also, I find it impossible to follow it due to my eyesight
It's like looking at an etch-a-sketch that a three year old was playing with  Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 01:59:30 PM »

i probably have the full diagram at home if I've time I'll scan it tonight
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 03:26:06 PM »

Also, I find it impossible to follow it due to my eyesight
It's like looking at an etch-a-sketch that a three year old was playing with  Huh?

I scanned the diagram out of the Haynes/Workshop manual and then used iPhoto (choose your favourite photo app) and using crop/print full page I managed to scale it up to whatever you need to be able to read. Attached is an example of the fuse box area for the pre f/l.

Peter


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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2017, 03:32:47 PM »

Thanks Peter
The clarity is amazing
I'm viewing it on a tiny tablet and it's clearer than my manual
Unfortunately it's the face-lift car with the bigger fusebox that's in trouble
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 03:42:42 PM »

Thanks Peter
The clarity is amazing
I'm viewing it on a tiny tablet and it's clearer than my manual
Unfortunately it's the face-lift car with the bigger fusebox that's in trouble

Hi Frank

Yes, aware of that (hopefully Alan has a paper copy), but thought it may be of use if you get a scanned copy and then need to blow it up. In iPhoto you can select the exact size of the crop, so make two equal halves which can then be taped together which I did recently when putting the fuse box back into mine.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 04:23:34 PM »

Aha!
Illness have to borrow my daughter's iPhone as my own Dumb phone isn't updated to the task!
I should have known from the wording offers your message that you weren't attempting to offer the older diagram as a solution!
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 08:55:42 PM »

https://goo.gl/photos/krbqBrPnzajXZLLd6

Hopefully this is clear enough

If you view on a tablet and zoom in it should be legible, it's a big sheet so not easy to scan, I had to photograph with mobile instead.
One way that might work to view it easily is to cast it to your TV.
Just tried it, it's best not to cast from the Google photos app but instead save the photo to the phone, cast the phone screen and view on gallery app making sure the orientation of the picture is landscape, you can then zoom in and out with fingers on the phone screen to view detail. This is with Android not sure how this works on Apple devices.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2017, 06:40:45 AM »

Thanks so much
It's way better than the Haynes effort clarity-wise, never mind being for the correct series car.
Hopefully I'll get the last of the gremlins banished now.
I owe you one  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2017, 08:07:16 AM »

Thanks so much
It's way better than the Haynes effort clarity-wise, never mind being for the correct series car.
Hopefully I'll get the last of the gremlins banished now.
I owe you one  Smiley
No problem, anything else you need info wise please ask I have a good collection of Beta info (and always looking for more, trawling eBay is a bad habit 😂) although it can be erratic simply because Lancia themselves seemed inconsistent in what they published at the time.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2017, 11:09:35 AM »

Lancia erratic???
What a shock  Cheesy
I got stuck in and the surprises were, we'll, surprising!
I ended up changing not only the ignition switch which had failed as I was aware, but the steering column switch cluster to restore the function of the side lights AND the fusebox which saw the courtesy lights, cigarette lighter and clock memory return to life.
Only Lancia would design a car that you can change the fusebox in five minutes and take an hour to change the light switch!
Erratic?
You bet!
I think I'm down to nuts'n'bolts now if I haven't fried the ignition coil that I forgot to disconnect while working with the ignition key on for a couple of hours
There was a comforting warmth coming from it when I got that hot smell
Waiting for the battery to change now to see if there's damage
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