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« Reply #100 on: July 03, 2019, 06:44:46 PM »

Its going to the paintshop pretty soon now. I took a long break from the Beta, but am motivated to go back at work.

Color is going to be Agnano Blue
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« Reply #101 on: July 04, 2019, 07:02:33 PM »

I can't wait to see it.

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« Reply #102 on: August 02, 2019, 12:49:30 PM »

These paint-guys make me crazy, you always have to wait so long before they do what they said

so still waiting
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« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2019, 01:16:23 PM »

These paint-guys make me crazy, you always have to wait so long before they do what they said

so still waiting

My HPE is in the paint shop since the 1st of February. It's in primer and ready to be painted for months now.
I hope they will get round to actually doing it in the next few weeks because I am starting to miss it Undecided
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« Reply #104 on: April 04, 2020, 04:14:50 PM »

still not painted, but we are proceeding...

with this coronathing I have a lot of time so I started working on the car again. It still isn't painted because the transporter didn't want to do it until my steering was fixed, so started working on that

but got a question, i pulled the steering rack apart and there are two covers to bolt on the rack, but the haynes manual only mentions one torque setting. for the coverplate off the pinionhouse (19 NM)

What do you suggest as torque for the cover on top of the plastic retainer and the spring?

Thanks

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(my flickr account costs money nowadays so i switched to google photos, but dont know how to put these pictures here directely)
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« Reply #105 on: April 13, 2020, 12:13:29 PM »

I placed the head on the block, used new head bolts

Also I reinstalled a new timing belt and made a little video of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vx9JgwGbms


comments or suggestions are welcome

(paintshops in belgium are closed due to corona)
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« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2020, 08:33:08 AM »

Nice work Fred!
Looking forward to meeting up when your car's on the road  Wink
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« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2020, 07:05:44 PM »

ok, having a problem here. THe engine is out of the car. When I press in the clutch I can rotate the engine easy. When I dont press in the clutch I can't get any movement in the engine whem I try to cranck it. I think the gearbox is in neutral.

So im gonna pull the transmission of the engine and see what the problem is.

Can I remove the transmission leaving the bellhouse on the engine?  --> stupid question, now I know

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« Reply #108 on: May 14, 2020, 04:50:47 PM »

Question. What is the best/easiest way to build in the engine? The car is out for paint, but stands on his wheels, so with subframe. Is it better to take of the hood and lower it in. Or should i take the subframe backboff when the car is back from paint? Thank you,

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« Reply #109 on: May 14, 2020, 06:05:38 PM »

I've always found it easier and quicker to put it in from underneath.

If you're limited as to how high you can lift the car you can slide the subframe in from the side  - the wheelarch gives you more room.
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« Reply #110 on: June 15, 2020, 01:50:04 PM »

I have done a compressiontest om my 1600

Dry
1: 190
2: 202
3: 200
4: 201

Wet
1: 205
2: 225
3: 225
4: 223

Is this okay?

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« Reply #111 on: June 15, 2020, 05:06:48 PM »

Assuming the engine was hot and the throttle wide open for all the tests you have a problem with number 1 and now need to do a leakage test on that cylinder to find out if it is valve, piston ring or head gasket related. Check the tappet clearances on that cylinder stone cold in case they have closed up leaving valves part open when they should be closed.

The leak test tells you if you are re-building the head or the engine.

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« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2020, 06:40:44 PM »

The engine was cold. It is still out of the car

I installed a new head gasket
Checked the tappet clearance ans changed the shims
Used new head bolts
Polished the valves
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« Reply #113 on: June 15, 2020, 08:03:10 PM »

Do Cylinder Leakage tests not compression tests. You can not test a cold engine reliably on a spinning compression test. If you started at number 4 with a fresh battery throttle wide open it will probably change again.

I the leak down is even fit it and when the smoke finally clears from the oil in the bores and it warms up fully do a compression test with a FULLY charged battery 10 seconds each cylinder.

Good luck.

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« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2020, 08:44:42 PM »

Damn, i hoped better news. I thought these results were quite ok.
Should i replace the pistonrings?

Pistons itself are hard to find or too expensive
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« Reply #115 on: June 15, 2020, 11:13:52 PM »

I'm missing something here aren't those figures on the high side of good? Or an I thinking in the wrong units
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« Reply #116 on: June 16, 2020, 08:14:53 AM »

Hi Alan

Consistency across cylinders within 5% is the goal 10% on a worn engine AND the test needs to be on a hot engine throttle wide open. If the leakage test shows no problem I would install it. If not you know exactly what to fix ie is it an issue with rings or valves on number 1 OR not an issue at all just not running a compression test correctly.

It also depends on the dome height of the pistons and the cam profile. On a standard Beta I would be happy with those numbers if they were done in the correct test.

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« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM »

car is back and started rebuild

the first moment I saw the colour I was like "did I ordered that". But now I am kinda happy with it, its not too serious, a bit funky.























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replaced all brakeline. before I gonna build in the engine, i am gonna test the brakesystem on leaks
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« Reply #118 on: July 10, 2020, 09:49:29 AM »

Nice work  Smiley
And love the colour; very seventies-ish  Grin
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« Reply #119 on: July 12, 2020, 06:55:32 PM »

Trying to reinstall the clutch pedal with that massive spring.

Any tips?
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