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« Reply #140 on: July 27, 2020, 04:05:28 PM »

Problem solved!!!! Smiley
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« Reply #141 on: July 28, 2020, 03:42:31 PM »

Working on ignition. Got good spark on the 4 plugs. I used this method for timing :https://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2099.msg12891#msg12891

This is 10 degrees before tdc on number 4 for static timing. The haynes manuel says 0 degrees ( page 100)

I tried first the manuel procedure and hdad a lot of backfire. Now i set it to 10 degrees, and timing is better, no backfire.

It still only runs when i keep pushing the trotle. If i dont it stalls. Carb ussue i presume
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« Reply #142 on: July 28, 2020, 03:58:07 PM »

It still only runs when i keep pushing the trotle. If i dont it stalls. Carb ussue i presume

automatic choke not yet properly adjusted?
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« Reply #143 on: July 28, 2020, 04:36:23 PM »

Its running !!!!

https://youtu.be/P4qyToEDxAQ
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« Reply #144 on: July 28, 2020, 04:37:53 PM »

Great work and a well deserved smile!  Grin
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« Reply #145 on: July 28, 2020, 05:11:49 PM »


 Nice Work Fred !!! 
 
 You'll be stoked.  Smiley


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« Reply #146 on: August 29, 2020, 04:13:56 PM »

Hey, have a problem with the windsreenwipers. The motor works fine but wjen i cut them off, the wipers stop in the middle.
Made a little video.

https://youtu.be/sdmI--t94TU

Any thoughts?
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« Reply #147 on: August 29, 2020, 06:00:04 PM »

Two things to try to get an idea of what's wrong.

1. When the wipers stop without parking properly try pulling the wiper stalk on the steering column as if you are spraying water on the screen. If it then parks its the connectors on the wiper arm not making a proper connection.
They are little brass connectors with springs that may need cleaning or worse there may be a crack in the base of the stalk where these are located so they don't quite press onto the riveted contacts to complete the circuit.
If cracked only solution is a new arm.

If that makes no difference....

2. Pull back the vinyl sheath over the wiper motor (if its still there) remove the four screws and lift off the brown? plastic cover protecting the wires on the main body of wiper motor.
You can now see the where the wires are soldered onto the contacts on the plastic gear cover and with a little luck you will find one of them has melted and the stylus below no longer makes contact with the track on the worm wheel inside.
Once this contact is broken or melted the intermittent stops working and the wipers refuse to park.

If that's the case you have no option but to source another set of wipers and just change the cover over - assuming it does not have the same fault.

Please note that you can gain access to all this on a right hand drive car, with a little luck a European spec car will just be on the opposite side but still accessible.

Good luck.


   
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« Reply #148 on: August 29, 2020, 06:58:16 PM »

Thanks

Tried both. 1) when i pull the stalk, only the engine of the waterreservoir starts working.

2) pulled the brown cover ( lhd, you have to remove the whole motor). All connection looks ok

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« Reply #149 on: August 29, 2020, 09:11:03 PM »

Fred,
Are the wipers self-parking in the middle? Or do they simply stop when shut down?
If the former, removing and replacing the wiper arms after a self park will sort it.
If it's the latter, it could be the wiper relay [it's called an interuptor on the wiring diagram]

Hope this helps
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« Reply #150 on: August 29, 2020, 11:46:38 PM »

When i shut them off, they still go till they reach the middle. So i cant just replace the wipers themself.

Whrre can i find the relais?
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« Reply #151 on: August 30, 2020, 07:27:35 AM »

Hi

Do the wipers always return to the same point on the windscreen?

Have you disassembled the mechanism? If so it could be that the mechanism was not reassembled at the same position on the motor spindle.

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« Reply #152 on: August 30, 2020, 11:38:04 AM »

When i shut them off, they still go till they reach the middle. So i cant just replace the wipers themself.

Whrre can i find the relais?

Fred, this tells me they are indeed self-parking. Therefore everything electrical is working fine.
When parked [in the middle], remove the stalks [arms] from the spindles at the body and refit them in the normal
parked position.

Unless i'm missing something.

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« Reply #153 on: August 30, 2020, 04:11:31 PM »

Hi

Have you disassembled the mechanism? If so it could be that the mechanism was not reassembled at the same position on the motor spindle.

Peter

That was it. Quite stupid mistake from me.

Now they work fine.

Thanks for the imput guys.
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« Reply #154 on: August 30, 2020, 05:33:12 PM »

Not really as difficult to know where to refit the mechanism without putting power to the motor.I have the same thing to do once I have reconnected all my electrics.

Peter
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« Reply #155 on: September 02, 2020, 07:18:01 PM »

I ordered a new seal for the rear window. It arrived today and it is quite sturdy. There is a groove in the rubber foorseen for the trim, but then th3re is still a lot of rubber over. Is it meant to be cut away? Thanks

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« Reply #156 on: September 02, 2020, 11:00:38 PM »

Where did you get the rear glass from, is it the original bonded glass?
Your coupe has bonded front and rear glass from factory so its bigger, rubber mounted glass is smaller. i know windscreens are smaller for a fact so would assume the same for the rear.
If you managed to fit your cars original glass then its too big surely and pushing the seal out further?
That flap at the bottom is supposed to go under the boot lid there is no trimming involved.

Just a hunch but i think you need the correct glass to match the seal or earlier cars have a different rear window aperture.
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« Reply #157 on: September 03, 2020, 07:54:53 AM »

That type of seal is good if it fits. The extra rubber 'skirt' ensures the water drains and doesn't damage the cross member as it has on my car.
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« Reply #158 on: September 03, 2020, 10:24:29 AM »

I havn't fit it yet. It seems quite big indeed. Gonna try this weekend.
Always something with these cars Smiley
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« Reply #159 on: September 04, 2020, 09:00:07 AM »

I thought the trims for the early bonded screens (front and rear) are a different design to the later ones for rubber seal screens. Bonded screens have the trims bonded onto the screen. Rubber seal type trims have a profile on the underside that slots into the rubber seal.

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