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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 05:23:03 PM »

We have had the oil debate before, when Alan scanned in the handbook page which includes 20W50 down to -10. As per my 'tad heavy' comment, this was never meant as a recommendation, just a commentary on what has worked in my, at best, mid life, slightly leaky, 79hp (maybe), summer use only car.
If you read the book you'll understand why Eric commented as he did, with modern more viscosity stable oils 10w seems appropriate. I agree with you that wear and summer use only both have an influence on choice though.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2017, 03:52:14 AM »

As far as I know about lubrication the ideal oil should have stable viscosity at all conditions e.g. temperature, pressure and etc. To be more precise it should have the viscosity of hot oil at cold start let say 15cSt. For our beta engines it should be even slightly "thicker" to maintain proper oil pressure.  Unfortunatelly that products so far does not exist and still remains the "holy graal" for all petrolheads... The best available approximation would be 0W60 for good quality synthetic esters. Regular oils, especially mineral ones have, unfortunatelly, strong temperature related viscosity. This means they are almost not flowing at extreme cold temperatures and on the other hand at running temperatures they become too thin, not maintaning the proper protection against wear.  


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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2017, 07:06:11 AM »

Back on topic I had a good hard drive up some fairly demanding roads to the top of the Dales yesterday to collect my daughter from the end of her Gold DofE expedition, so the new fuel pump has had a fair test. However, I hadn't put back the rear valance cover in the boot after messing with the off side light cluster for the MOT. Said cluster had popped off when I opened the boot to deposit rucksacks etc. A good prompt to put it back together properly....
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2017, 05:57:39 PM »

500 mile round trip to Bristol at the weekend to return Elena to Uni and take part in Bristol Italian Automoto Festival. Mainly A roads there then all motorways back so a good shakedown for those long drives in Europe come June.


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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2017, 08:50:10 AM »

Down to Donington this weekend. No Lancias racing, but some great preparation and competition.

My favourite car of the weekend was an A40 that slaughtered a field including Jags, Lotus Cortinas and Minis. I was convinced that it must have a supercharger, but when we saw it in the paddock it was just a tuned A Series with nice manifolds and two smallish SUs!


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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2017, 09:35:55 AM »

A mate of mine was there with the historic kart club, but didn't get across this year- fiddling with Beta doors and dashboards!

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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2017, 05:58:13 PM »

Your Beta's certainly looking smart ready for the trip in June.  Best of luck Neil.   
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2017, 07:10:44 AM »

With GNW (in the Ypsi to rest the Beta) and the poor weather I have been struggling to get some prep done for Betameeta, but I got a solid hour in last night touching up the problem area below the rear screen and re-painting the rusty tail pipe.

I also drained off the coolant and re-filled it with Water Wetter added. The temperature is always fine on fast A roads, but I feel the car runs a bit hot on the motorway, and there is a lot of that coming it's way! I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has tried it?
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2017, 03:12:27 PM »

Last pre trip job done, replacing the rear rocker cover gasket. It cost me the wooden shaft of my small plastic hammer, which snapped when I tried to lever the cover through the oil filler hole. It then came off with some fairly gentle levering with a wrench extension protected by some cloth. Not as glued on as on my last car, but still a mystery why these gaskets leak when they are so well fastened down! The gasket was split half way, but not weeping from that area.

Just pump up the tyres on Monday. Then we are off!
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2017, 04:06:43 PM »

Hi Neil

Here is wishing you a pleasant and uneventful trip of the car breaking down type....!

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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2017, 01:25:57 PM »

Hope its a great trip Neil. Good luck and look forward to some photos of the journey

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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2017, 03:01:18 PM »

I imagine that after that trip it'll run so well better than ever before, you can't beat a bit of use to get a car running well.
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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2017, 05:21:37 PM »

Going there, doing that, got the T shirt!


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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2017, 11:42:29 AM »

Off to Hull in 30 mins. 1800 miles to go.....
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2017, 01:22:37 PM »

Have a great time- hope all goes to plan.

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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2017, 05:39:59 PM »

Made it to Via Vincenzo Lancia this morning, the perfect Father's Day trip. I'm typing this from Lingotto. Full report on my return.
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« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2017, 05:43:46 PM »

Brilliant! Glad you got there ok
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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2017, 09:17:55 AM »

I imagine that after that trip it'll run so well better than ever before, you can't beat a bit of use to get a car running well.

How right you were Alan (yes, I know you usually are!). By the time I got to Italy, 800 miles in two days, the car was running better than it ever has in my four years of ownership. 38 years of accumulated crap burnt/blown out of the engine and carb no doubt.
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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2017, 09:29:48 AM »

Well, we got home too. 2058 miles in total with complete reliability from the car in temperatures almost constantly in the high thirties or even more. Just some fuel vaporisation on our trip to Lake Garda while driving in slow traffic causing some hiccupping on acceleration, otherwise perfect, and as above running better all the time. Two days of empty French D roads was Beta heaven...

I was quite apprehensive when I set off with tools and a parts box both of which were of course untouched. I would certainly have needed some serious shade to do any work....

I'm going to write up this wonderful trip in due course, but for now some teasers; the car adjacent to the former Chivasso plant where it was assembled nearly 39 years ago and on Via Vincenzo near the former Lancia HQ.


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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2017, 11:03:17 AM »

Nice one Neil. Look forward to seeing the full write-up in due course.

One for Viva Lancia I reckon.

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