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Author Topic: Beta Top Water Rail - what specification for remanufacture?  (Read 50359 times)
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« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2014, 06:30:43 PM »

I now have one of these spare.  You can buy them from South Africa. 
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« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2014, 07:27:54 PM »

New or used? Mild or stainless? Early or late head gasket friendly vx style? More importantly what price and where from (felix?)?
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« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2014, 02:08:30 PM »

I got a black painted mild steel one for my 1300 from Felix.  I will have to check what I paid, but it wasn't much. 
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« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2014, 02:13:45 PM »

371 rand, approx £22, plus shipping from SA.
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« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2014, 03:45:10 PM »

second hand I presume?
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« Reply #65 on: October 31, 2014, 08:19:28 PM »

371 rand, approx £22, plus shipping from SA.

If new, please pm me any re any relevant details as trying to ship,a car or two from Cape town and quite happy to throw some spares in the boot As I also need some bits and pieces !

Thanks stephen
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« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2014, 10:10:25 AM »

It looks new, but may just have had a coat of paint.  It's on the car now.
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« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2019, 10:11:27 AM »

Did GB Engineering ever produce a new water rail?

Good second hand items now appear almost impossible to source and Iím wondering if I need to go for a bespoke option (for the lower rail at least).

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« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2019, 02:09:56 PM »

Did GB Engineering ever produce a new water rail?

Good second hand items now appear almost impossible to source and Iím wondering if I need to go for a bespoke option (for the lower rail at least).

Chris

I don't know if anyone has made any, best spec is the volumex one with the extra outlet to relieve pressure in the head (top rail).
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« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2019, 09:09:09 PM »

Thanks Stuart.  I spoke with GCRE earlier today and he is working with his team to look at some manufacturing options for both water rails.  I'll keep you posted but I might be looking for some betaboyz support along the lines of the intended 'group buy' (albeit small numbers) rather than me just going it alone... otherwise I can see this being rather expensive!

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« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2019, 12:59:23 AM »

Hi, It's been a long while since I've posted about this, and there was a misunderstanding between myself and GB Engineering. I was under the impression he was going to research it and get back to me (I sent him 3 different types of top water rails), he was under the impression I was going to chase up certain aspects of the design and get back to him. The upshot was that he skipped the 3 rails I sent to him, being under the impression I'd lost interest. The problems of doing business at a distance of 150 miles+.

However I have been speaking to some local Sheffield engineering firms, and need to take down examples for them to inspect and (hopefully) copy. Earlier on we were talking about having multiple options for the top rail - quite frankly I think that is madness. We need to agree on one variant and move forward with that. My preference would be the Volumex top rail, bit with the the extra outlet to the OS thermostat deleted, and use an in-head 'stat. If Guy is looking at remanufacture then that's all to the good, in my book. The more people that are working on a solution, the better.
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« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2019, 08:54:03 AM »


If Guy is looking at remanufacture then that's all to the good, in my book. The more people that are working on a solution, the better.


Agreed.  But we should probably commit to whoever comes up with a good solution first.  Itíll probably take a minimum order of 10 to make it cost effective and demand is fairly limited.
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« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2019, 09:03:03 PM »

There is one snag with the volumex style top rail with in head stat in that the extra coolant connection bypasses the in head stat......
Mine has been modified before I realised the error, if I ever get the engine back in the car I'll find out if it's such a catastrophy or not
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« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2019, 09:48:09 AM »

Alan

No problem and if concerned you just turn the heater off. I also have an in head VX top Rail.

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« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2019, 08:14:15 PM »

Alan

No problem and if concerned you just turn the heater off. I also have an in head VX top Rail.

Eric 

Yes I realise it's kind of not a big deal but although I'm not sure that the greater makes any difference? The bypass is from head to to pipe is it not? Really just mentioned it as it may bother done people perhaps better to make both in head and standard stat variations
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« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2019, 11:27:05 AM »

I have a few very good condition water rails. .Pm me .
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