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The_Matrix_Master
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« on: April 19, 2012, 10:52:25 AM »

Can anyone comment if this is a viable alternative to using a petrol additive to 95/98 RON petrol for our betas ?
Does it work ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RUN-UNLEADED-IMPROVES-OCTANE-COMBUSTION-EASY-FIT-LANCIA-BETA-MONTECARLO-/350556238055?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519ec7b0e7#ht_650wt_698

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 01:06:09 PM »

I would not touch this with a barge poll speaking as an ex oil company employee who endured the 6 weeks of fuel and lubricant training. Where is the test data to back the claims? Was testing carried out by a reputable body? does it have any vehicle manufacturer approvals? How about the RAC, AA or historic vehicle testing facilities?

There are far too many dubious products being advertised today where the standard of ad approval is way below the standard needed for proven and verified products IMHO. I really dislike the suggestion that there is no need to adjust the ignition timing with this. Have you every seen what detonation does to an engine!

As you can tell I am not a fan of this.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 05:38:27 PM »

Pointless I would say. As said before I just don't think that twin cam heads need anything more than the occasional glug of additive.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 10:35:30 AM »

It's an Ebay sale so caveat emptor. My advice is AVOID.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 12:32:23 PM »

I have just bought a Spyder 2000, can anyone recommend a decent lead additive please ?
I have just read the 'Buyers Guide' on this Forum, and it suggests using the higher octane fuel, and also noted that many users do not have a problem if mileage is low. I do not intend my Spyder to be a daily runner.
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Keith
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1982 - Beta Spyder 2000cc.
1973 - 2000HF Pininfarina Coupe (Flavia update model), Bosch injected.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 09:32:54 AM »

I suspect a lot of the worries about unleaded were based upon profit driven hype and the fact that many rather crude british engines used iron heads. I don't think it's such an issue for lancias even those officially unsuited to unleaded
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2015, 09:37:30 AM »

As above, I've done thirty thousand miles in my Betas with nothing more than the odd tank of Super and an occasional glug of Redex.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2015, 10:05:36 AM »

That is reassuring to know, thank you for replying Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2015, 10:20:51 AM »

i think best option would be to reshim the tappets now so you know the clearances are correct then use super unleaded and check the gaps fairly regularly to see if there is any valve recession, probably once a year would be enough if you are doing modest mileage and don't regularly push the engine too hard
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2015, 10:39:13 AM »

thanks for the advice rossocorsa Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2015, 12:37:51 AM »

Steel seats and valves in an alloy head
30,000 miles, many at high revs and extremely high speed (german autobahn) valves still perfect.

All on standard unleaded.
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2015, 10:34:03 AM »

1978 Beta Spyder  2ltr,  standard head,  decoked in 1998,  12000miles since all on standard unleaded,  no problems.
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2015, 12:11:10 AM »

Isn't there something about lead having been removed from fuel in America during the seventies when betas were still being sold new without any special head? Or am I miss-remembering? Perhaps someone can comment.

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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2015, 08:48:27 AM »

Isn't there something about lead having been removed from fuel in America during the seventies when betas were still being sold new without any special head? Or am I miss-remembering? Perhaps someone can comment.

Frank T

Yes, I think the US went unleaded in the late 70's.
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