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Title: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on September 15, 2023, 09:40:45 PM
Hi All

Just thought I would start a discussion on meeting next year. After talking with my better half she suggested at some point we should have one here based around Grantham which gives the opportunity to visit the roads of Northern Lincolnshire (no they are not all flat and boring).

So, anyone else interested in organising the weekend, please post here.

Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on September 18, 2023, 11:53:01 AM
I'd mentioned doing Yorkshire again next year in a tag with Mark for Shropshire. However as it's been done I'd support Lincolnshire for sure. We found some great roads back in my surveillance driving training days out of North Lincoln 2012 to 2015 and even some of the flat fenland roads got interesting as per my 'airbourne BMW 5 Series' story.


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on September 18, 2023, 09:51:43 PM
Hi

I just reread what I had written and did not make it clear that I meant anyone who is interested in taking on organising in an area of their choice, not simply the area where I suggested. I am more than happy to organise one in our area.

Neil, thanks for that, personally happy to go anywhere in the country for the weekend.

I am hoping we could eventually make the weekend a more organised one like last years 50th where a hotel is used as a base. Again folks views on this would be interesting to hear.

Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: HFStuart on September 19, 2023, 01:00:11 PM
The wolds is a great area  - and largely unknown to outsiders. I think that would be a cracking choice. 


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: A1.6HPE on September 19, 2023, 09:20:33 PM
Kielder Forest? 
Am really talking about the area south of Jedburgh. This has some great quiet roads and lots of interesting places to visit including  the Jim Clark Museum and perhaps even a trip to the magical Holy Island of Lindisfarne with the intrepid sea-crossing opportunity.
I have organised several Great Northern Weekends so have experience of organising Lancia club social weekends.

Leo



Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on September 20, 2023, 10:10:11 AM
Hi Leo

Sounds like a great area. I for one would like to have the weekend along the GNW format ie one hotel and organised well in advance so folk can plan. Not sure if that would fit in with everyone’s budgets, but the. You have the option to join for the day etc.

Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Nigel on September 20, 2023, 09:41:08 PM
After seeing what the Gamma guys did, I would love to visit
Lindisfarne.

However this is quite a way north for a lot of members which may affect
some.
I'm more in favour of the Lincolnshire area as it's a bit more central.

Nigel


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on September 21, 2023, 08:15:34 AM
Hi Leo

Sounds like a great area. I for one would like to have the weekend along the GNW format ie one hotel and organised well in advance so folk can plan. Not sure if that would fit in with everyone’s budgets, but the. You have the option to join for the day etc.

Peter

Just a word of caution/dissent regarding the big weekend at a hotel format. LMC currently do three of these annually and I’m in the thores of organising GNW 24. It’s a surprisingly big and difficult commitment. John and Amanda took something of a gamble with Beta 50, which of course paid off, reserving rooms that they hoped would be taken.

I think Theo takes more of a halfway house approach, finds a nice hotel then gets participants to book themselves on a book quickly or miss it basis. He’ll correct me if I’m wrong. This avoids deposits/speculative reservations etc.


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on September 21, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
Hi Neil

Thanks for that view point, it is always good to have first hand experience, maybe Leo could also provide a view on this and how would be best to organise it? I guess the main thing is to keep as many folk near to each other, so that eg the Sat evening meal does not turn into an adventure, thinking of Tony et al on this years do!

Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: TonyLanciaBeta on September 23, 2023, 07:49:15 PM
When we booked the hotel for Beta 50, Amanda, myself and Andy signed a contract to take 20 rooms/catering, fortunately we needed to add lots more  ;D, but was a massive financial commitment personally if it didn't work.
It would be nice if we can find a hotel, to keep everyone together and everyone book individually.

Always amazes me how far the Gamma Consortium travel for their weekends  :) but worth remembering a fair amount of them are retired, and maybe have more time on their hands  8)

Tony




Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: A1.6HPE on September 27, 2023, 11:15:48 AM
In organising a weekend event, the choice of accommodation is the only real challenge. Increasingly hotels will want a financial commitment long in advance and that presents a considerable risk to the organiser (as Tony has mentioned).  The organiser needs to do a risk assessment to balance the size of the booking. Personally I feel that restricting the number of rooms is good practice on two levels. Firstly the attendees enjoy a more intimate social experience and the arrangement of "first come first served" will generally work for people who are definitely going to attend. The basis is to prepare for the hard-core attendees and handle extras if it possible.

Long distance driving in the UK is not a pleasant experience these days and inevitably hosting a weekend event far away from the area where the majority of Beta owners live will result in a low attendance count.

I joined the Gamma Consortium in Northumbria just recently and there were 7 cars present - 5 Gammas and 2 other Lancias (Plus my Beta part-time).  All those who made the effort to attend seemed glad to have made it.

So while a Betameeta north of Hadrian's Wall is certainly possible it would probably not attract more than a few crews/Betas.

I would have loved to be at Beta 50 but the 7 hour journey had no appeal.

Leo


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Aitch on November 27, 2023, 04:11:57 PM
Sorry I'm a bit late to join the discussion, but thought I should throw in my views. I love Northumberland, have visited many times, but I do agree that a more southerly location like Lincolnshire would attract more people. Northumberland is a long way from anywhere south of the Midlands, and driving in the Lincolnshire Wolds sounds great. Dates permitting with work, I would be in.


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on January 08, 2024, 01:55:27 PM
Hi

Thanks for all the comments. I will therefore try to sort out a weekend which hopefully can fit in with as many folk as possible. Sadly I will make it complicated because of spending a period in France during the summer. So here are the periods I will not be able to make, could you indicate when would be preferred?

I am away 20th June to 27th June and mid July to mid August (exact dates flexible), 5th to 10th September, late September to late October (exact dates are flexible). So that gives us

Early to mid June
End June to mid July
Mid August to late September (excluding weekend of 7th Sept)

Sorry to limit it, just how the dates have worked out this year.


Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Aitch on January 08, 2024, 04:24:54 PM
Good stuff Peter...For me, best to avoid the first option. My preferred is the final one, mid Aug to late Sept. Thanks again. Howard


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on January 09, 2024, 09:49:49 AM
First option would be best to avoid several LMC events (AGM, Goodwood, Welsh Weekend), but if you go late can we avoid the last two? (Welsh Weekend not announced yet though).


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: HFStuart on January 09, 2024, 01:11:44 PM
3rd option is best for me too - unless you fancy a Beta meet in Slovenia?


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Nigel on January 09, 2024, 10:55:36 PM
Hi Peter,
I can do the first 2 options and then mid August to mid September
[excluding the last Sept weekend]

Hope this helps. I realise it's a nightmare trying to satisfy a majority!

Nigel


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on February 29, 2024, 10:46:52 AM
Hi

I am considering the weekend of the 10th/11th August. I see that there is an Auto Italia meet at Brands, but does not clash with anything else on the LMC calendar.

Any comments would be appreciated before I move forward with it.

The 11th is the date for our local East Midlands club show near Newark, so was going to incorporate that in the program.

Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on March 01, 2024, 09:04:37 AM
Sounds good.


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: SanRemo78 on March 01, 2024, 11:26:23 AM
I'll keep that weekend free - but there's no chance the Beta will be done by then sadly!
Guy


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: peteracs on March 02, 2024, 06:49:43 PM
Hi All

As no negative comments(!) and I have confirmed that the show near Newark is on for the 11th, so pushing ahead on that weekend.

We took a drive out today and called in at the Petwood Hotel, Woodhall Spa (https://www.petwood.co.uk (https://www.petwood.co.uk)) which has an interesting wartime history and has a large car park. I was thinking of it being a early afternoon coffee/lunchtime stop as they offer a simple coffee/tea through to full lunch if you are that hungry…..

We also called in at a local Pub/Restaurant/Hotel the Hare and Hounds (https://hareandhoundsfulbeck.com (https://hareandhoundsfulbeck.com)) at Fulbeck which we have been going to for years and have put a provisional booking for the evening of the 10th. They also have rooms available, all are doubles, but there is a single occupancy price at a small discount.

The other reasonably local hotel worth considering is the Old Barn near Marston which has plenty of parking and a pool etc.

A bit of Googling will bring up various other options, but they were the ones which came to mind.

I was proposing to meet up at our house in Oasby, East of Grantham, postcode NG32 3NA for tea/coffee/ toast/croissant etc (no meat, sorry..) and to set off for a reasonably long drive heading for The Wolds and eventually zsstopping at The Petwood for a break, then a shorter drive back. For those interested we could take in the perimeter roads of RAF Coningsby and Waddington. No idea if there will be any activity on a Saturday…..

For Sunday, probably meet up at the Hare and Hounds assuming some are staying there, if not maybe our place, then shortish drive out to get to the show at Muskham just off the A1 at around 11ish. I assume folk will then make their way onward from the show. The show is a charity raising event put on by my local club, The East Midlands Classic Vehicle Club.

When we get nearer the time I will need to have an idea of numbers to let the Petwood and the Hare and Hounds know, so if you know you are coming please let me know how many.

Thanks

Peter


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: A Ross on March 03, 2024, 01:32:25 AM
This sounds excellent Peter! count me in! I'm very excited as this will be my first Betameeta with my own Beta!  :)


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Thotos on March 03, 2024, 06:18:38 PM


I think Theo takes more of a halfway house approach, finds a nice hotel then gets participants to book themselves on a book quickly or miss it basis. He’ll correct me if I’m wrong. This avoids deposits/speculative reservations etc.

Yes that's right. I/we convince the hotel to hold/block a number of rooms for us for a certain time to allow people to book direct with the hotel. Most hotels are quite open to this and offer a better rate that if booking individually.


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Thotos on March 03, 2024, 06:21:26 PM

Always amazes me how far the Gamma Consortium travel for their weekends  :) but worth remembering a fair amount of them are retired, and maybe have more time on their hands  8)

Tony


Are you calling us old Tony?  ;D It's because Gammas are true Grand Tourismo cars and so very reliable that we go as far as we do ;)  ;D


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Thotos on March 03, 2024, 06:47:37 PM
Booked  :D


Title: Re: Betameeta 2024
Post by: Thotos on March 03, 2024, 06:53:55 PM
There's just one room available at the Hare and Hounds now so if you want to stay there, be quick!