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Technical stuff => Exhaust System => Topic started by: lanciamad on September 20, 2009, 11:13:35 PM



Title: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lanciamad on September 20, 2009, 11:13:35 PM
Looking to get a less restricting exhaust manifold for my 2.0 IE has anyone got one fitted ??? (Pics ;)) Where did they have it done ??? and what price am i looking at ???
Sticking to the same subject, what is peoples views on exhaust wrap, and is it illegal to use ??? as i've seen it advertised as for motorsport use only.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: thecolonel on September 21, 2009, 12:46:07 AM
as far as I know it's legal, I've used it on both my Gamma exhausts and it certainly
got rid of the heat soak.

Geoff


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: hutch6610 on September 21, 2009, 01:19:03 AM
I have an Ansa made four branch effort on my VX which really is designed for a normally aspirated model.
Its for a 1600 really and it seems to get the job done.
CSC/Primaflow did a version at one time but i think this is discontinued as well.

I have to be honest - i really dont think you are going to get any noticeable gain from a four branch with the rest of the standard exhaust .... by that i mean an inferior after market TiMax or Euroflow pattern part.
They are not up to the original Lancia spec (now long gone).
The iron manifold is not bad really, its just the rest is the problem - you may need to have a custom made big bore (nothing over the top mind) with high flow sports silencers - off the shelf sizes are available for custom applications.

The exhaust wrap is a good idea though (and legal) as it keeps the heat down as thecolonel states.

Get a bigger bore system made up in stainless is the only solution i can think of.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: rossocorsa on September 21, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
heard mixed reports on exhaust wrap not sue i'd bother on a beta might be an idea to post a question on guy crofts forum


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: HFStuart on September 21, 2009, 09:23:18 AM
I have an Ansa 4 branch manifold sitting in my loft if you're interested. It's used but not bad at all.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lanciamad on September 21, 2009, 05:40:33 PM
Yeh i may be interested, message sent.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: hutch6610 on September 22, 2009, 03:05:52 AM
Be sure to check the clearance as my Ansa sits very, very close to the sub-frame - it only just clears and its burnt the paint off as well.
Also advise you to warp her up if you do fit it as the manifold has a lot more surface area, if not you will end up changing steering rack boots every year.
Lost count how many i have got through!


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: MattNoVAT on September 28, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
I used exhaust wrap on my first Hawk Stratos and will be using it again on my second car.  It was fitted to the first car from day one and no-one said anything at any of its MOT's, so I think you'll be OK.  Works a treat !



Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lukasdeopalenica on June 10, 2014, 10:30:04 PM
Continuing the exhaust manifold wrapping thread I would like to ask you how to wrap the standard cast iron manifold since there is not too much space between the sections. I have already bought a thermo-insulation tape, 50mm width. I doubt a bit if it is not too wide...
The only goal I would like to achieve is to reduce the temperature under bonnet and save the rack boots, fuseboard, insulation of wires etc.
Another question regards the temperature impact on the cast manifold - is it safe for it and will not crack?
thanks


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lbcoupe76 on June 11, 2014, 08:09:17 AM
Why not have the manifold ceramic coated. A good solid ceramic coating will do much the same thing as wrapping and be do-able so to speak on the standard cast manifold. It also looks good.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: peteracs on June 11, 2014, 09:43:13 AM
Why not have the manifold ceramic coated. A good solid ceramic coating will do much the same thing as wrapping and be do-able so to speak on the standard cast manifold. It also looks good.

It would depend on budget of course.....

Peter


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lbcoupe76 on June 11, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
You can make your own ceramic slurry reasonably cheap. That will then allow you to do as many components as you want. We Get turbo dump pipes ceramic coated here and it's not to bad price wise.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: HFStuart on June 11, 2014, 12:44:29 PM
Continuing the exhaust manifold wrapping thread I would like to ask you how to wrap the standard cast iron manifold since there is not too much space between the sections.

The wrap become quite flexible when it is wet - just wrap as much as you can without blocking access to the mounting nuts. It would lso be worthwhile doing the first part of the downpipe as that radiates a lot of heat to the steering.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lukasdeopalenica on June 11, 2014, 01:35:01 PM
Why not have the manifold ceramic coated.
I agree with you, but the problem is the manifold sits on its place under bonnet ;)
There is not too much space between the engine and chassis so the operation is not going to be easy but it has to be done. Especially when is as hot as now and with underbonnet linnen the temperature in my engine bay is extremely high. I will try to make wet the wrap with water prior the winding and let you know about the results. I am going to use all the tape I have. I hope that 5meters will be enough.
thanks


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: peteracs on June 11, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
Hi

Never used it myself, so this may be a nonsense suggestion, but depending on the width, can you cut it in two to make it easier to go around the tight bends etc?

Peter


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: MattNoVAT on June 11, 2014, 09:50:48 PM
Once it's cut it frays and falls apart quickly.  :-(


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Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: HFStuart on June 11, 2014, 10:07:31 PM
I agree with you, but the problem is the manifold sits on its place under bonnet ;)
I will try to make wet the wrap with water prior the winding and let you know about the results. I am going to use all the tape I have. I hope that 5meters will be enough.

Wear gloves  - it is not good for the skin.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lukasdeopalenica on June 12, 2014, 07:35:15 AM
Is it made of glass fibers?


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: HFStuart on June 12, 2014, 08:53:31 AM
Something like that - I'm not sure exactly what it is but it irritates th skin.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: lukasdeopalenica on June 13, 2014, 08:03:29 AM
It does, however I wore gloves I had also a T-shirt. In a result my hands are now ok but arms are a bit irritated. Anyway I succesfuly wrapped just the exhaust manifold. It was not easy but doable. I used 4 of 5 meters of the tape so I need to buy some more to wrap also the downpipe. Now I am wondering about trying to mount also the factory thermo shield, mainly for aesthetic purposes.


Title: Re: Exhaust Manifold for 2.0IE
Post by: Hawk on June 19, 2014, 10:27:43 AM
If you soak it first (so that it is dripping wet) it makes it much easier to wrap and I also found that it stopped the skin irritation