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Title: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: droptop on June 01, 2017, 12:21:17 PM
Is there a method of reverse bleeding the braking system on a Beta?
There's not a hope of opening the bleed nipples on my car as they're seized solid and will definitely shear
Having changed the master cylinder, I vantage avoid the need


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: jreacock on June 01, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
If you've only replaced the master cylinder, then I would have thought that most of the air will be at the 'top', and it should bubble back up. When I changed my Land Rover clutch master cylinder, I didn't bleed anything, and it seemed to sort itself out.

As the system is sealed, and the fluid doesn't circulate, then no air should make it down to the calipers (I would have thought). You could probably do with getting the nipples sorted sometime soon though, as the fluid takes on water over time, and will gradually corrode your caliper internals. I sent mine off to these people, and they sorted out some seized nipples and refurbed them: http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/ (http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/)

These people are meant to be good too: http://www.biggred.co.uk/ (http://www.biggred.co.uk/)


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: WestonE on June 01, 2017, 08:01:23 PM
Find a set of hose banjos with bleed screws in them and use those to bleed the callipers. Much better than leaving old fluid where you least want it. I think they were on the Beta Boyz parts pages, but not hard to find if not.

Eric


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on June 02, 2017, 07:11:34 AM
If you've only replaced the master cylinder, then I would have thought that most of the air will be at the 'top', and it should bubble back up. When I changed my Land Rover clutch master cylinder, I didn't bleed anything, and it seemed to sort itself out.

As the system is sealed, and the fluid doesn't circulate, then no air should make it down to the calipers (I would have thought). You could probably do with getting the nipples sorted sometime soon though, as the fluid takes on water over time, and will gradually corrode your caliper internals. I sent mine off to these people, and they sorted out some seized nipples and refurbed them: http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/ (http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/)

These people are meant to be good too: http://www.biggred.co.uk/ (http://www.biggred.co.uk/)

Big Red didn't assemble the rear calipers properly when I used them.


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on June 02, 2017, 07:12:48 AM
Find a set of hose banjos with bleed screws in them and use those to bleed the callipers. Much better than leaving old fluid where you least want it. I think they were on the Beta Boyz parts pages, but not hard to find if not.

Eric

I got a set of banjos with bleed screws from Betaboyz.


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: HFStuart on June 02, 2017, 01:18:13 PM
These people are meant to be good too: http://www.biggred.co.uk/ (http://www.biggred.co.uk/)


Big Red didn't assemble the rear calipers properly when I used them.

When they did mine the front dust covers weren't on properly and the fancy back coating dissolves on contact with brake fluid.

I think I'd look elsewhere.


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: droptop on June 02, 2017, 06:08:44 PM
If I had a mind to change the calipers, I only have to look on the shelf to the right of the csr ;D
I'm at the point where I've spent enough on a car I'm selling as a project anyway and I'm probably going to list the brakes as one of the "Minus" points in the description
This'll morning I had to change the wiper mechanism as it's own one only worked on what passes for high speed
I still have maybe 24 hours work ahead of me before I'd consider buying the car myself at the price I'll be asking and that's my guide with anything I do, either when working or selling


Title: Re: Brake bleeding advice needed
Post by: droptop on June 08, 2017, 08:38:01 AM
I got this sorted by opening the banjo bolts at each hose, allowing the fluid to trickle out from the cylinder and then pushing the pistons back a little before tightening each bolt back up
Messy but effective