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Technical stuff => Body => Topic started by: HFStuart on June 11, 2014, 12:55:21 PM



Title: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: HFStuart on June 11, 2014, 12:55:21 PM
Does anyone know when they switched the screen on the Spider from bonded type to rubber sealed and how I might tell the difference on a bare screen?


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: peteracs on June 11, 2014, 01:28:49 PM
Hi Stuart

Did not realise there were any UK unbonded versions on Spider, I thought it came in after they had finished?

The difference will be in the p/n, but I had both next to each other and there is just a centimetre or so difference in the size, so I would measure them to make sure.

Peter


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: lukasdeopalenica on June 11, 2014, 03:58:54 PM
They definitely differ in height. As far as I know the bonded windscreen, at least in coupes and HPEs is ca 1cm higher than the rubber seal mounted (68,5cm)


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on June 11, 2014, 07:21:11 PM
Hi Stuart

Did not realise there were any UK unbounded versions on Spider, I thought it cam in after they had finished?

The difference will be in the p/n, but I had both next to each other and there is just a centimetre or so difference in the size, so I would measure them to make sure.

Peter

Also thought only the VX and ie models had the unbonded screen in the UK.


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: rossocorsa on June 11, 2014, 08:51:39 PM
Will try to check the microfiche when I have time, not convinced that lancia would have fitted the rubber seal type to spiders as the bonded screen will assist rigidity never actually tried it but I was under the impression that the screens are interchangeable in that you could fit a screen with rubber to a bonded screen car(??) anyone know for certain?


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: peteracs on June 11, 2014, 09:58:27 PM
Will try to check the microfiche when I have time, not convinced that lancia would have fitted the rubber seal type to spiders as the bonded screen will assist rigidity never actually tried it but I was under the impression that the screens are interchangeable in that you could fit a screen with rubber to a bonded screen car(??) anyone know for certain?

I can confirm they are different sizes and hence would not be able to fit the later one to a bonded screen.

Peter


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: rossocorsa on June 11, 2014, 10:54:02 PM
I thought the aperture was the same and the sealing method dictated the difference in screen size as the rubber seal is thicker ??


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: lukasdeopalenica on June 12, 2014, 07:37:25 AM
That is the point.


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: rossocorsa on June 12, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
check this old thread http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2100.0 (http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2100.0) for information that I found then on microfiche


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: HFStuart on June 12, 2014, 08:52:11 AM
Much appreciated


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: peteracs on June 12, 2014, 10:08:11 AM
check this old thread http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2100.0 (http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2100.0) for information that I found then on microfiche

Following on from your comment in this thread what is the size of the fiches?

Peter


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: rossocorsa on June 27, 2014, 08:08:28 AM
240mm x 180mm

apologies for slow reply been rather busy! I can check this again but last time I enquired only the normal smaller format fiche could be done


Title: Re: Windscreen - when did they stop doing bonded?
Post by: spud on June 27, 2014, 01:02:45 PM
Also thought only the VX and ie models had the unbonded screen in the UK.

My VX has a bonded screen from new.

Andrew.