Lancia Beta Forum

Alan,

In your vast Beta library and technical info - any chance we could get a list of colour options / paint codes?  Even just the options would be a great starting point and the detail can be built up later over time.

This question has come up a few times in the past, I'm particularly interested at this moment in time in Series 1 colour options, but I think everyone would benefit if we had an accurate and comprehensive list to reference online?

What do you think?


If a co-ordinator is required to compile a list of colours and codes specifically for the Beta then I am happy to act in this capacity.  It will require forum members contacting me with the details of their basic colour and the paint code (usually on a sticker on the underside of the bootlid / trunk)

I can see what I can do, I actually don't have a vast collection there is a lot I don't have! I do have some colour cards though but they don't always identify which year they were specific to. Give me a few days to have a look at it. Reds are very confusing as there are several racing reds with different codes, on your sample you show Bangkok yellow as series 1 but AFAIK it was series 2, series 1 cars were maya yellow (just how sad am I?) anyway I get the idea .........

Alan, yes forgive my lack of accuracy!

That should have been S2 for Bangkok yellow.  

With the help of all forum members and the original colour charts/options we can build a much better list of colour options and their codes.

Appreciate your input...

All

Michael, aka Fulvia 3 has kindly sent me a comprehensive list of Beta paint colours, codes and years.  So I am we'll and truly underway. 

Many thank Michael this is very much appreciated!!

I could not have asked for a better start to this little project.  Once again the forum and its members have already demonstrated what can be achieved when we pool our collective resources.

Watch this space folks....

Matt
If you send this list on to me I will check it out for you and identify any discrepancies



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The list is coming along quite well already:

Things that are missing:

1.  Colour options from 1972 to 1975

2.  Trevi paint options.  (Theo - Can you shed any light?)

3.  Colour options 1980 to End of manufacture.

I have included two column in the spreadsheet "Supplier Fornitore" and "Sigla / Initials",  my Italian is not good but I reckon that Sigla is the paint suppliers own code as opposed to Fiat/Lancias code.  These two columns can be built up over time and members can post a picture of thier paint code sticker within this thread or mail it to me direct.  

To those of you that have done so already my thanks go to you for such a fast response.

Matt

I have all that information will send it when I can find time

Alan

Beta series one

Bianco Saratoga
Beige mirabello
Verde cascine
Rosso York
Bleu agnano
Marrone parioli
Blue lancia
Nero
Rosso corsa
Grigio escoli met
Bleu Vincennes met
Bronze ascot met
Giallo maya (only from about 1974)

 







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1976

Dover white
Bangkok yellow
Sahara beige
Dublin green
Antibes blue
York red
Parioli brown
Lancia blue
Corsa red
Escoli grey met
Portofino blue met
Windsor brown met

Series 2 pre facelift colour card undated but guessing later than the above 1976 one

Dover white
Ceylon beige
Sahara beige
Finland green
Lipari azzurro
York red
Parioli brown
Lancia blue
Corsa red
Escoli grey met
Portofino blue met
Windsor brown met
Black

Trevi series two and beta volumex coupe / hpe

Bianco Saratoga 224
Blue lancia 438
Ivory 252
Rosso rally 112
Azzurro chiaro 482
Nero 601
Azzurro Antibes 827
Azzurro chiaro met 415
Grigio chiaro met 620
Beige champagne met 510
Grigio scuro met 679
Marrone met 734
Verde scuro met 382

Trevi volumex series one

As per Trevi series two except rosso corsa 854 instead of rosso rally

Matt

I do have some more info but no time tonight to dig it out, as you can probably see it all gets very confusing and colours changed within series so not as straight forward as might be expected. Not all markets took all colours and different models were offered in differing selections for instance in the UK it seems that the coupe ie was only sold in  red or black but the volumex coupe was sold in red, black,silver,met grey or white but neither representing the full colour range produced.

Early spiders up to series two had some unique colours I'll list these later. Anyway I think you've taken on quite a task.

Alan

That's great and to be honest trickle feeding the info is probably best, otherwise it's easy to get overwhelmed by all the info.

This is not a five minute project and I think it will be roughly 75% complete then the last 25% will get added slowly over time as little bits of info complete the jigsaw.

Just want to get as much info into one place and male it easy to understand. Not worried about what colours were available to what markets, it is just what colours were available for what model and what their codes were.

I'm not sure it will ever be possible to get completely to the bottom of this, colour charts are relatively scarce and often undated. I buy charts whenever I can but only at sensible prices! It is possible that the lmc library could hold more information if you are an lmc member you could try asking (lmc is not my scene so I can't) The upholstery options add another layer and unfortunately these seem less well documented than exterior colours especially with regard to specific colour/upholstery combinations.

One thing at a time Alan, interior options may well be done later - but thats way more complicated by different options being available in Europe.

Personally, I do not find this paint info too complicated once it is centralised.

I agree that it will not be too bad the hard work will be checking and double checking accuracy, as regards fabric options there may well be useful info on these in the parts books/fiche as each colour or pattern would have to be seperately identified by different part number 

Will have another look at this whilst I am sorting out my brochure collection, I think it would be good to include a scan of each colour or fabric within the spreadsheet , eventually of course as that will be time consuming but accurate records for betas are so rare I'm sure it will be worth the effort.

Beta spider early, not sure if series 1 or 2 or maybe both as the colour card is undated.

Bianco Saratoga 110
Argento Nevada met 170
Beige Ceylon 124
Rosso Brighton met 191
Beige vinovo 190
Rosso capannelle 193

Actually I think it is series 1 as slightly later cars seem to be available in red whereas capannelle is a kind of burnt orangey red

Note that Bianco Saratoga is a different code to that used on late series cars!

Not sure if its any use to anyone but I have a series 2 colour and uphostery chart showing the following for coupe hpe (with interior colour choice)
(white) Bianco Dover 103 (red or green)
(lime green) Giallo Bangkok 112 (red or green)
(biege) Biege Sahara 113 (red or green)
(green) Verde Dublino 118 (biege or red)
(light blue) Bleu Antibes 120 (biege or red)
(burgundy) rosso york 126 (biege)
(chocolate brown) Marrone Parioli 116 (Biege or green)
(dark blue) Bleu Lancia 121 (biege or red)
(ferrari red) Rossa Corsa 123 (biege or green)
(black) Nero 122 (biege or red)
(silver) Grigio Escoli Metallizzato 135 (red or green)
(metallic blue) Azzurro Portofino Metallizzato 132 (biege or red)
(metallic Brown) Bronzo Windsor Metallizzato 134 (biege or green)

I can send the original chart on if that's of use to anyone.

Nice one! I don't think I have that specific chart, there are actually so many different charts and they are relatively scarce (more so than the main brochures) that it is difficult to collect a full set

So how come nearly all Series 2 interiors are either Beige of Grey? Or am I thinking of the ie's they all seemed to be Grey.

That's series 2fl you are thinking of

Beta upholstery colours (all are fabric unless otherwise specified) all colours lancias description which may not tally with your eyesight!  example beige cloth for coupe/hpe I would describe as mustard, the red fabric some would think nearer to orange

Series 1

Berlina 1400

Brown
Light beige
Green
Light blue

The above listed in two fabric versions early/late
Berlina

Brown vinyl
Black vinyl
Brown leather
Black leather
Brown
Light beige
 Green
light blue

coupe

green
red
beige
light beige vinyl
brown vinyl
natural  leather

spider

brown vinyl

hpe

vinyl natural brown
vinyl light beige
vinyl dark brown
beige
green
red
leather natural brown
leather red
leather dark brown

Beta upholstery colours (all are fabric unless otherwise specified)

Series 2

Berlina 1300

Brown
Light beige
Green
Light blue

the above in two version one for 1300cb.3 and the other for 1300bb.3

black or brown vinyl (1300bb only)

Berlina

tangerine
blue
hazel brown
brown vinyl
black vinyl
red vinyl
brown leather
black leather


coupe

now it gets properly complicated!!

basic colours of fabric

red
green
beige


the 1300 has a different fabic type to 1600 and 2000

there are two types of fabric for 1600/2000 (one type with 'garnish strip' which I take to be vinyl piping)

there is a further variation in the usual colours with a combination of 'velvet cloth/diapered velvet' what ever that is!(??)) in two versions one for 1600/2000 the other for 1300 I suspect this is similar to series one but can't be sure.


light beige vinyl
natural brown vinyl
dark brown vinyl
the above vinyl both with and without 'garnish strips'

leather natural
leather red
leather dark brown

again with or without 'garnish strips'

combination vinyl outer/perforated vinyl inner panel
light beige
natural brown
dark brown

(again with or without garnish strip)

same but in leather
natural brown
red
dark brown

again with or without garnish strip

the above is the best I can interpret the parts book it wasn't written to be understood 35 years later when the cars are almost non-existent!

spider

brown vinyl

hpe



natural brown vinyl
very dark brown vinyl
light beige vinyl

red
green
beige

leather natural brown
leather red
leather dark brown

combination of ventilated and normal vinyl
natural brown/dark brown
dark brown/dark brown
light beige/dark brown
combination of fabric and normal vinyl
beige/dark brown
green/dark brown
red/dark brown
leather it isn't clear but I am guessing this is ventilated /unperforated combination but it doesn't say so specifically
natural brown
red
dark brown

Amazing, when you buy a new car now you are lucky to get three choices (one of which will be grey!)

oops I duplicated some series 1 info into series 2 in error! Now corrected. Even so I don't think it's as many as it appears, not all variations would have been available at the same time or on all models, hobsons choice on the spider though not even a leather option on these early cars

series 2 facelift coupe/hpe, berlina series 2 late versions (78/79) (I think with long gutter and electronic ignition ) berlina 79 (berlini dash)

berlina

pre 03/79

fabric

brown
beige
green
light blue
orange
blue
light brown

vinyl

brown
black
red

leather

brown
black

from 03/79


vinyl

beige
black

leather

beige
black

fabric

beige
blue
grey


berlina 79 (the one with the berlini dash)

leather

beige
black
cognac
grey

vinyl

black
cognac

fabric

light blue
grey
brown
camel (late type only)

there is a change of fabric at some point (from 16951 (1600) 11799 (2000)) when the camel colour was added


coupe/hpe S2FL

vinyl

black
beige

leather

black
beige

fabric

grey
blue
beige

fabric (other possibly 'L' cloth but can't be sure) annotated as central europe / france (if I've interpreted it right!!)

beige
blue

fabric noted 'allestimento specialle' ( I am guessing this is the hounds tooth grey check used in the coupe laser )

grey


spider

vinyl

beige
black

leather

beige
black


trevi and S2FL2 coupe hpe to follow when I have time!

trevi

series 1

vinyl

black
cognac


leather

grey
cognac
beige
black

fabric



grey
blue
brown
camel (late type only)
there is a change of fabric at some point (from 901081 (1600) 900676(2000)) when the camel colour was added

dark red/beige fabric volumex only (lancias description ! in reality this is actually a brown/beige/grey fabric in a very fine zigzag pattern)


trevi series 2

fabric

check pattern beige/beige
check pattern beige/blue

very fine zig zag pattern  beige/blue (vx)
very fine zig zag pattern beige/dk red (vx)

leather

beige
black

no vinyl option!

coupé S2FL 2 these are very confusing on the microfiche


vinyl

black (only until 02.83)

leather

black
black (for volumex not sure what the difference is)

fabric

brown (I think this must mean grey with red pattern)

blue (I think this must mean grey with blue pattern)
grey/black check (volumex)
note: Recaro front seats optional extra for VX (STD in UK ) are only listed in grey/black check fabric



HPE (also confusing)

vinyl

black (only until 02.83)

leather

black
black (for volumex not sure what the difference is)

fabric
grey (only available  until 02/83)
brown (I think this must mean grey with red pattern)
blue (I think this must mean grey with blue pattern)

beige/blue check (volumex)

Or judging from the cars we see on the road all of them will be grey...

I have a colour chart which is undated ( code is 88 795 996 if that helps). It lists some colours not mentioned in the thread so far as I can see, it also has trim options in 'Velvet Textured Cloth' TVE and Leather. It says it's for Beta Saloon, Beta Coupe, HPE (No Beta which helps date it a little) and Beta Spider

Here are the colour and trim options

Body Colour   Cloth    TVE   Leather
Ice White 182   Blue/Grey   Black    Black
Morocco Beige 111   Beige   Beige   Beige
Capri Blue 129   Blue/Grey   Black    Black
Ascot Dark Green 109   Grey / Beige   Beige   Beige
Lancia Blue 105   Blue/Grey   Beige   Beige
Nearco Red 108   Grey / Beige   Black    Black
Amaranth 125   Grey / Beige   Beige   Beige
Racing Red 123   Grey / Beige   Black    Black
Black 122   Grey / Beige   Beige   Beige
Met Grey 135   Blue/Grey   Black    Black
Met Blue 132   Blue/Grey   Black    Black
Met Beige   Beige    Beige   Beige

Amaranth looks to be a very dark blue in case you wondered...

I think that is series 2 facelift these options were usually listed in the back of the actual brochure ( the ones with the dark blue covers)

Interesting  to note that early spiders seem to be painted in zagato colours whilst later cars used standard lancia colours


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By accidient I've just stumbled over what I think is a full set of colour charts.

The colour reproduction isn't great but it does give the names and codes.

http://www.lancia-beta.de/grund/grund-lack-e.htm (http://www.lancia-beta.de/grund/grund-lack-e.htm)

Ive seen that before but I'm not sure it's 100% I'll check from what I know when I have time
On second thoughts I need to back off a bit this is after all Matts project, I'll leave it to you Matt to pull it all together

Amaranth I'd always thought to be a very dark redishbrown


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Me too. I had a rotten Amaranth HPE a few years ago, it was a rich dark brown

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Yep, had that self same problem when we had a new Ford C-Max last year. Colour choices were pants, went for a sort of light blue/grey colour in the end, my biggest gripe is that they all come in dark grey/black interiors which I absolutely try to avoid if i can, hence preferring the earlier Beta interiors. Even the leather option was dark grey.....

Peter

Which is one of the reasons I drive a lime green Ibiza as my daily....

You're right about the interiors though - only Alfa and Citroen offered decent options and sadly the Mito & DS3 weren't for me.

Edit for gratuitous shot of a non Lancia...

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/HFStuart/IbizaatWork.jpg)

When we got our mx5 we ended up with a black one mainly because that edition was available with very light grey seats otherwise the interior option was black black or black, still miss our mg tf though gorgeous special order light blue metallic , grey dash and blue/black leather seats it was a beauty I fail to understand why both manufacturers and buyers are so conservative in the UK, if my volumex is ever finished I'm not intending to paint it the original grey metallic rather a brighter colour possibly Lagos blue metallic much more in keeping with a sporty coupe


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Received the chart today, many thanks! I think this was issued over a relatively short period as it includes fulvia 3 which must have been discontinued not long into series 2 beta production. I never realised that you could buy a fulvia in those colours!!


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/3m6nyp84c5pffmd/lancia%20colours.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3m6nyp84c5pffmd/lancia%20colours.pdf)

That's a very comprehensive list, i noticed though that not one of these list's has Giallo-Maya for 76 models and i have a 76 in that colour, wonder if it's just another example of italian record keeping. Still thank you for posting that it's great to be able to get the codes.

(http://www.netcarshow.com/Lancia-Beta_HPE-1978-wallpaper.jpg)

What paint code is it? Bleu-Lancia, Bleu(m) or another?

will try to remember to check tonight, I think the photo is a bit flattering to that colour though!

I think it is metallic blue 132 but I think you will find it is a bit lighter and less strong a colour in reality than that publicity picture

(metallic blue) Azzurro Portofino Metallizzato 132 (Formula originale: IVI 317.822 132, Formula Lechler: 132)?

(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5200/221626243.4/0_c396b_3ff2ae0b_orig.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/youngtimers/view/801131/)

(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9329/221626243.4/0_c396c_781dd801_orig.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/youngtimers/view/801132/)

(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9115/221626243.4/0_c396d_d76af28_orig.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/youngtimers/view/801133/)

Seems to me that this Fulvia paint would be closer to that nice photo:

Blu Jamaica metallizzato
Max Meyer DP 847-96257
Lechler 63
Glasurit LAN 203

(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9485/221626243.4/0_c3976_8efa8da9_XL.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/youngtimers/view/801142/)

(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9648/221626243.4/0_c3978_346130ca_XL.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/youngtimers/view/801144/)

(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9485/221626243.4/0_c3974_e30b2180_XL.jpg) (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/youngtimers/view/801140/)

The '132' lighter metallic blue looks too modern to me for pre 80s cars, maybe it is just metallic paint which I sort of associate with the 80s onwards, though guess it has been around much longer...

Peter