Lancia Beta Forum

Technical stuff => Ignition => Topic started by: lanciatomcat on October 19, 2012, 10:56:49 AM



Title: Distributor Identification
Post by: lanciatomcat on October 19, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
Have found following distributor during my garage clearout!!
Can anyone identify please?
markings on side are:- SM8060X 815R2 815P2 6K


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: lanciatomcat on October 20, 2012, 08:16:32 AM
Has been suggested a block mounted '79 unit?
Any confirmation at all??


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: MattNoVAT on October 20, 2012, 08:24:53 AM
I think its off a late car, as it has the electrical block, maybe i.e.

I will be in the garage later so will have a look at the VX head I have in there as that has cams and dizzy attached.


Title: Re: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: rossocorsa on October 20, 2012, 08:33:14 AM
That's definitely not off a late car,ie and vx have dizzy on end of cam, the cap looks like it has screws holding cap which suggest to me an earlier car.maybe it could be north American spec? Or not beta at all


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: lanciatomcat on October 20, 2012, 12:17:11 PM
Have tried Eric Weston who suggested Guy Croft who also did not know exactly what it came off from info given.
Seem to be drawing a blank ??? ???


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: rossocorsa on October 20, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
it looks a bit more like a gamma one but don't think that the splined drive is correct

nope checked gamma one has clipped on cap and different drive

is it a bosch dizzy or marelli??


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: Thotos on October 20, 2012, 03:09:49 PM
That looks like a Marelli block mounted distributor for the 131 except for the vacuum advance unit which the 131's did not have. I believe some North American and Swiss versions of the 131 had vacuum advance units but I thought they had head-mounted distributors.


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: WestonE on October 20, 2012, 06:23:45 PM
Theo

My best guess was late Fiat 132 because of the block mount and Marelli Electronic Ignition Plug. Not a Beta one IMHO.

Eric


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: targa2000 on October 20, 2012, 07:49:26 PM
Looks very similar to the dizzy that I had on my 1980 American spec 2 litre Fiat 124 Spider.


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: Thotos on October 20, 2012, 08:08:56 PM
My best guess was late Fiat 132 because of the block mount and Marelli Electronic Ignition Plug. Not a Beta one IMHO.

I don't know much about 132s (not as much as 131s anyway  ;) ) but later 131s and 132s shared the same engines. So I'd expect 132s not to have vacuum advance on their block mounted distributors.

Looks very similar to the dizzy that I had on my 1980 American spec 2 litre Fiat 124 Spider.

Presumably the 2 litre 124s got the 132 (131) 2 litre engine. Earlier 124s had head mounted distributors (with vacuum advance for USA) but I don't know about the later 2 litre 124s.

Beta engines, even though very similar to the Fiat 132/131/124 engines, had quite a few subtle differences mainly due to the angle that they were fitted in the Betas plus of course it was the first FWD installation of these engines. I've only seen Bosch distributors in Betas but I suppose there must have been some Marelli ones?

PS I've posted it on the Fiat 131 forum to see what some of the very knowledgeable guys on there think.

http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=5876.0 (http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=5876.0)


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: targa2000 on October 20, 2012, 08:20:28 PM
My 2 litre Fiat 124 spider was fuel injected and had a block mounted dizzy with vacum advance.


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: cheeky monkey on October 21, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
looks similar to my 1300 beta 1979 but thats a Marelli SM806AX

regards
Graham


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: rachaeljf on October 21, 2012, 04:51:58 PM
It's "DX" and it's from a Ritmo/Strada 125TC I think.

Cheers R


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: lanciatomcat on October 21, 2012, 05:45:04 PM

PS I've posted it on the Fiat 131 forum to see what some of the very knowledgeable guys on there think.

http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=5876.0 (http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=5876.0)

Thanks for that.
My wife was impressed that one of the 131 Forum members appreciated the quality of the tablecloth!! ::)


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: rachaeljf on October 21, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
I wasn't going to mention it but I was amazed that you were allowed to place a nasty oily Fiat part on that fancy tablecloth!


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: lanciatomcat on October 22, 2012, 08:02:33 AM
I wasn't going to mention it but I was amazed that you were allowed to place a nasty oily Fiat part on that fancy tablecloth!

Rachael
I got a note first. ;D


Title: Re: Distributor Identification
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on October 27, 2013, 01:21:26 PM
I bought this distributor from Tom just for the vacuum advance unit, which I've now fitted to my 1300 Coupe. There are no obvious physical differences to the distributor on my car and I was tempted to do a straight swap. I was only put off by a single letter in the part number, as Graham points out above, an A.

The distributor also contains the rare Marelli ignition unit, so I'll probably hang on to it.