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Title: Fiat 132 2.0L Cams for 1600 Beta coupe?
Post by: betasulo on April 02, 2011, 02:40:25 AM
Hi All,

Is it possible to do the above and will it help?. Are the Fiat cams the same as on a 2.0L Beta?


Sulo


Title: Re: Fiat 132 2.0L Cams for 1600 Beta coupe?
Post by: 75coupe on May 20, 2011, 11:29:54 PM
Hi, the cams will fit no problem but they have different timing and lift to beta cams. Is your 1600 a 1585cc or an early 1592cc? The 2l fiat cams are also timed differently to beta 2l cams.

Beta cam timing:
2L: 13/45/49/9 With 9.9 mm. 9.4 mm lift on 1592cc. 1585cc: 17/37/48/6 with 9.4 mm lift

Fiat 131 2L: 5/53/53/5 with 9.9 mm lift.
Fiat 132 2L: 15/55/57/13 with 9.9 mm lift.

There are different cam pulley markings/offsets too which is how the timing is altered on some models.

Confused yet? Is there a specific reason you want to swap cams?

Guy Croft is a very good source of info on camshafts and the twin cam engine.  www.guycroft.com

Regards Ian


Title: Re: Fiat 132 2.0L Cams for 1600 Beta coupe?
Post by: betasulo on May 25, 2011, 09:51:00 AM
Hi Ian,

Thanks for all this info.
The plan is to up the performance of my car which is at this time being restored. I hope to get twin Weber carbs and was told the Beta 2.0L cams are the way to go.

I still have a good chance of getting 2.0L Fiat cams and was wondering if it would be the same as the Beta ones.
I will also check which engine I have.

Kind regards
Sulo


Title: Re: Fiat 132 2.0L Cams for 1600 Beta coupe?
Post by: 75coupe on May 25, 2011, 10:25:05 AM
Yes you will get a small increase in power, may be a few BHP, but don't expect miracles from swapping std type cams. the twin carbs are definately a good move, worth about 10 BHP+ on their own if sidedraughts. Head mods and increased compression are the way to go too. I run almost 11:1 CR on my 2 litre still using 98 octane pump fuel.

It may be worth finding a 2 litre motor if you want serious power - just remember you will get greater returns from this motor than the 1600 for the same money spent, and a 2 litre with twin carbs, compression and cams revs just as well as a mildy tweeked 1600 - my 2 litre revs to 7500 no problem!

You can see what mods I have done in the tuning & competition section under 2L uprated engine build.