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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: HFStuart on April 25, 2011, 02:01:40 PM



Title: Car Register
Post by: HFStuart on April 25, 2011, 02:01:40 PM
Do we have a register of known cars? Reg nos, chassis nos build dates and so forth ?

If not and we want / need one then I'm more than happy to set one up.

Stuart


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: TonyLanciaBeta on April 25, 2011, 03:25:23 PM
Hi Stuart

your right we don't have such a register, but would defiantly be nice to have
if your happy to set one up, you will get full backing from this forum

If I can help let me know.
cheers
Tony


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: HFStuart on April 25, 2011, 08:00:22 PM
You have pm...


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rodney3010 on April 27, 2011, 11:17:24 AM
Hi Stuart
Doesn't the LMC run something similar to this with the online database?

Rodders


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: HFStuart on April 27, 2011, 03:32:17 PM
It does but not all Beta owners are LMC members.

I was an LMC member for a while but I concluded it didn't have that much to offer me as an owner of post Fiat era cars.


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on April 27, 2011, 08:54:40 PM
I have to agree I was a LMC member for 23 years but gave up a few years ago not the pleasure to be a member that it used to be and tbh when I resigned membership no one at the club was much bothered and no one has ever attempted to get me to rejoin in any way shape or form. So yes there are lots of beta owners out there who are not LMC members. Can I suggest that the register includes not only current vehicles but any that have been owned in the past plus any that have definitely been scrapped 


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: HFStuart on April 27, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
You can especially as that was my plan anyway !


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: markwast on May 01, 2011, 03:04:23 PM
Think this is a very good idea , especially as its the big 40 next year. 

Mark


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on June 01, 2011, 07:43:50 AM
in an idle moment I decided to start compiling a list of reg numbers and colours of volumex coupés I have not recorded owners just wanted to see how many survive etc. By going through old LMC registers and other sources then checking status on line I have come up with a list of about 90 of the original 150 UK cars of these 11 cars are taxed 15 are on sorn when looking on the dvla website the rest either are unlicenced or come up as not found  I think it is fair to assume most of these have been scrapped, all i need now is the other 60-ish cars and there'll be a full picture pity it's not possible to get DVLA to press a button and give the info for free :-(



Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on June 02, 2011, 07:52:31 AM
found another .......make that 12 taxed

of those where I have been able to find details ..

11 are/were  black

18 are/were  grey

23 are/were  red

21 are/were  silver

5 are/were white

2 are recorded as 'not stated' (never knew you could do that!)




Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: HFStuart on June 02, 2011, 03:08:26 PM
I've got a sample web form from Tony I need to check over then we'll be sending it out for people to complete.

In the meatime any informtion you have please pm me  - especially randon sightings of cars that might not be in the Betaboyz fold.

Stuart


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: TreviDash on June 08, 2011, 07:17:49 PM
www.howmanyleft.co.uk (http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=lancia+beta)


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on June 08, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
that's interesting but it doesn't seem to tie in well with my figures I think i need to laboriously go through every re number on www.cartell.ie (http://www.cartell.ie) to check if they are all definitely vx coupés Vxs were never shown as Beta on reg docs incidentally but as 'LANCIA COUPE 2000 VX'

actually looking at the HPE VX figures I really think they are wrong surely there must have been more than 3 taxed during 2010

ah now I see for some are registered as 'coupe volumex' and some as 'coupé 2000 vx'  and similar for the HPE


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: mangocrazy on June 09, 2011, 02:24:50 PM
Does the data on www.howmanyleft.co.uk (http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk) relate to how many vehicles of a particular type are taxed or registered (i.e. those taxed plus those on SORN)? And if a vehicle has been untaxed prior to when SORN was introduced, do they also figure in the stats?

Anybody know?


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on June 09, 2011, 02:52:20 PM
if you click on the entry it gives licenced and sorn any cars that have been off road before sorn started will not show as they will be 'unlicenced' as will be any write offs or cars in possession of the motor trade. the coded descriptions seem a bit hit and miss (like with the volumex models) plus there are a lot of unidentified lancias listed either most likely very old cars or personal imports


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: MattNoVAT on June 10, 2011, 01:18:24 AM
Does anyone know what the differences is between the two Beta 1600 entries are?  N3016 & N3014 relate to Beta 1600  but is the two codes for S1 / S2?  Or Auto / Manual?   Or Coupe/HPE/Berlina.

Handy site but at best its an rough indicator, there seem to be 25 or so 2000 Coupes on the road (doesn't seem like many to me) and 30 odd that are on SORN - obviously the cars that are pre SORN and just sat languishing somewhere.

The 1600 Betas seem to have circa 49 in total for 2010, then 7 seem to have gone off SORN (presumably scrapped).

I genuinely did not realise that there are so few Coupes left!!


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: TreviDash on June 10, 2011, 04:12:27 PM
Quote
Data comes direct from the Department for Transport


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on June 11, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
LMC members currently own 296 Betas.


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on June 11, 2011, 04:14:38 PM
LMC members currently own 296 Betas.

if the register is anything like it used to be that will be a gross over estimate because  lmc members are notorious in not updating info plus a fair few are doubtless beyond saving sat rusting in soneones garden


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on June 11, 2011, 06:46:21 PM
Don't know if the figures come from the new database brought in last year. Overall car ownership equates to roughly one car per member so can't be too far off (some have double figure collections). 400 Fulvias are listed suggesting these may now be the most numerous Lancias surviving in the UK?


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: rossocorsa on June 11, 2011, 09:16:32 PM
400 fulvias seems a bit unlikely barely see one or two at most italian car events I suppose a lot must be on sorn


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: TreviDash on June 14, 2011, 02:05:03 PM
DVLA states 225 taxed Fulvias - approx half of the LMC ownership figures.  So few seen on the road however, I would have thought nearer fifty!

DVLA states 125 Beta/Trevi/VX/Volumex.  So that's less than half of the LMC figures!  Are LMC members just a 40-50% usage club?

Over five year period I had two Berlinas and a Trevi.  All three of them at one time.  Never was an LMC member - so they never heard about them.


Title: Re: Car Register
Post by: Neil-yaj396 on June 14, 2011, 10:01:35 PM
DVLA states 225 taxed Fulvias - approx half of the LMC ownership figures.  So few seen on the road however, I would have thought nearer fifty!

DVLA states 125 Betas........
  Are LMC members just a 40-50% usage club?

I wouldn't have thought it was that much actually!